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How long before we get an AM's departure style comment from DC? Feel for him
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You seem to assume DC wasn't on board with this. Why?
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Gutted for clarke
But financially that is a great success for the club. Making 380 grand profit on a player in a year
1985CTFC
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Carlisle forum state only Bolton, Reading and Cheltenham not made a incoming transfer so far.
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Anteros wrote: 17 Jan 2024, 17:23 Gutted for clarke
But financially that is a great success for the club. Making 380 grand profit on a player in a year
It won’t be £380k profit. I’d expect Stoke City to take a decent percentage of that.
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If I've heard right, the percentage going to Stoke isn't all that big.
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1985CTFC wrote: 17 Jan 2024, 17:25 Carlisle forum state only Bolton, Reading and Cheltenham not made a incoming transfer so far.

Yes, you can see that in the January transfers thread at the top of this forum. Also Reading have to sell before they can buy too.
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Still, that’s a very good deal for us and I’m sure it will help Darrell Clarke to bring in the types of players he wants to boost the squad for the rest of the season.
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duckers wrote:Still, that’s a very good deal for us and I’m sure it will help Darrell Clarke to bring in the types of players he wants to boost the squad for the rest of the season.
No because Robin says we don’t get our fees paid upfront.
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At least we have not had to recall Will from a loan to league 2 or non league to sell him for £400,000 (reportedly) ,Its a funny old game.
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Even if that’s the case, it provides the budget for more high end (£2.5k a week) earners which is what’s going to be needed to get the experience he wants.
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Robin wrote: 17 Jan 2024, 17:44 Also Reading have to sell before they can buy too.
Not quite. Reading are banned from paying fees for players. Free transfers only.
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Imagine being told 6 months ago that Alfie May was going to Charlton for £250k and Will Goodwin to Oxford for £400k
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It's a great deal....only if we stay up
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Si Robin wrote: 17 Jan 2024, 17:21 You seem to assume DC wasn't on board with this. Why?
I can only make my conclusions without, like yourself and others, having no insight as to what goes on at board level.

In saying that, it is clear we have missed a number of our first line targets, last week it was two of the 3 - 4, if it is worse or the same as we stand now. Who knows. However, what is evident is that it is not easy now, or historically to get players into CTFC, for one reason or another. Given that, it makes no logical sense for a manager to want to sell one of his regular starting 11 in the middle of a relegation scrap.
The presumption is that the extra £ we now have will make his job easier for him. But the facts are that Goodwin a relatively inexperienced striker is worth 400k and DC has made it known we are after experienced players. Where do we find an extra experienced striker plus the other 3 - 4? Given what we know we couldn't get near an experienced striker for 400k.

That is the logic I am applying, be it right or wrong, that makes me doubt DC wanted to sell Goodwin.
Maybe I am well wide of the mark and Goodwin in the start of a chain of events that are already lined up and we see our striker announced this week. But to ME, it sounds like a commercial decision
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shevates wrote: 17 Jan 2024, 18:10 It's a great deal....only if we stay up
This. That fee is bonkers, but it’s only good for us if we’re in the division in August.
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A few saying the money will boost the budget but who are the players lining up to join a team in a relegation battle?
It ain’t easy getting anyone to join us. We’re already 17 days into January and we’ve had two targets turn us down.
I’d rather Goodwin had stayed. Let’s build a team that can stay together for a few years, with good young committed players.
Fed up of all these departures both on and off the pitch at our club.
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Anteros wrote: 17 Jan 2024, 17:23 Gutted for clarke
But financially that is a great success for the club. Making 380 grand profit on a player in a year
Stoke will get at least 25% of that.

I think letting him go is bonkers. He won everything in the air, improved greatly and probably in the top three Cheltenham players of the season so-far.

We didn't need to sell, should have held out. If this the way the club is heading : selling our best assets ,then we will never improve as a football club. DC will be off if he does the miracle and keeps us up with a slim squad - he will be poached, like the others.
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Very disappointed as we’re disrupting a team that was playing really well.
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Malabus wrote: 17 Jan 2024, 18:33
Anteros wrote: 17 Jan 2024, 17:23 Gutted for clarke
But financially that is a great success for the club. Making 380 grand profit on a player in a year
Stoke will get at least 25% of that.
Sell-on is significantly less than 25%
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art vandalay wrote: 17 Jan 2024, 18:34 Very disappointed as we’re disrupting a team that was playing really well.
to be fair, the last time Goodwin made any significant contribution was the Orient defeat on 16th December. Went off injured after 4 minutes at Carlisle and played the first half at Northampton, a game we lost.
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Shade wrote: 17 Jan 2024, 18:42
art vandalay wrote: 17 Jan 2024, 18:34 Very disappointed as we’re disrupting a team that was playing really well.
to be fair, the last time Goodwin made any significant contribution was the Orient defeat on 16th December. Went off injured after 4 minutes at Carlisle and played the first half at Northampton, a game we lost.
Potential was there, he's young, learning his trade. Another error from the board whom I wholly distrust. WE DIDNT NEED TO SELL.
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We might well not have "needed to sell" (my lowercase) - but if Oxford offered to double his salary don't you think the player concerned might have had something to say in the matter? Would you want a player here who makes it clear he wants to leave?
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asl wrote: 17 Jan 2024, 18:49 We might well not have "needed to sell" (my lowercase) - but if Oxford offered to double his salary don't you think the player concerned might have had something to say in the matter? Would you want a player here who makes it clear he wants to leave?
I don't do hypotheticals. The facts are, we did not need to sell. The club is bigger than any player.
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Malabus wrote: 17 Jan 2024, 18:33
Anteros wrote: 17 Jan 2024, 17:23 Gutted for clarke
But financially that is a great success for the club. Making 380 grand profit on a player in a year
Stoke will get at least 25% of that.

I think letting him go is bonkers. He won everything in the air, improved greatly and probably in the top three Cheltenham players of the season so-far.

We didn't need to sell, should have held out. If this the way the club is heading : selling our best assets ,then we will never improve as a football club. DC will be off if he does the miracle and keeps us up with a slim squad - he will be poached, like the others.
What? Get relegated and get half of that or wait until the end of next season and get nothing?

Sorry I know it's not what everyone wants to hear but football is a business.
How else is the club supposed to make serious money?
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QED wrote: 17 Jan 2024, 18:36
Malabus wrote: 17 Jan 2024, 18:33
Anteros wrote: 17 Jan 2024, 17:23 Gutted for clarke
But financially that is a great success for the club. Making 380 grand profit on a player in a year
Stoke will get at least 25% of that.
Sell-on is significantly less than 25%
I have heard this as well.
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Anteros wrote: 17 Jan 2024, 18:54
Malabus wrote: 17 Jan 2024, 18:33
Anteros wrote: 17 Jan 2024, 17:23 Gutted for clarke
But financially that is a great success for the club. Making 380 grand profit on a player in a year
Stoke will get at least 25% of that.

I think letting him go is bonkers. He won everything in the air, improved greatly and probably in the top three Cheltenham players of the season so-far.

We didn't need to sell, should have held out. If this the way the club is heading : selling our best assets ,then we will never improve as a football club. DC will be off if he does the miracle and keeps us up with a slim squad - he will be poached, like the others.
What? Get relegated and get half of that or wait until the end of next season and get nothing?

Sorry I know it's not what everyone wants to hear but football is a business.
How else is the club supposed to make serious money?
Hypotheticals again.

I fully aware this board is completely delusional, but it does get very silly at times.
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Problem we have is attracting players to our club. So when we do get one over the line I’d expect us to let them have a clause in their contract that if an offer comes in and the release figure is met they can go if they want. Even if we don’t want them too.
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Anteros wrote: 17 Jan 2024, 18:54
Malabus wrote: 17 Jan 2024, 18:33
Anteros wrote: 17 Jan 2024, 17:23 Gutted for clarke
But financially that is a great success for the club. Making 380 grand profit on a player in a year
Stoke will get at least 25% of that.

I think letting him go is bonkers. He won everything in the air, improved greatly and probably in the top three Cheltenham players of the season so-far.

We didn't need to sell, should have held out. If this the way the club is heading : selling our best assets ,then we will never improve as a football club. DC will be off if he does the miracle and keeps us up with a slim squad - he will be poached, like the others.
What? Get relegated and get half of that or wait until the end of next season and get nothing?

Sorry I know it's not what everyone wants to hear but football is a business.
How else is the club supposed to make serious money?
Yes you're correct it's a business, and if we get relegated we will loose more in income than if we were a division one club, the money for Goodwin will evaporate.

I may also add there's no guarantee we would survive if Goodwin remained here, but I'm sure are chances would of been greater. Finally I'm sure DC was not looking for a striker in the January transfer window. He is now
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Good business turning 20k in to 400k in 12 months. Well done the board.

Doom and gloomers forgetting beating 1st place portsmouth and being the stronger team against 2nd place bolton without him. We'll be fine.
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Anteros wrote: 17 Jan 2024, 18:54
Malabus wrote: 17 Jan 2024, 18:33
Anteros wrote: 17 Jan 2024, 17:23 Gutted for clarke
But financially that is a great success for the club. Making 380 grand profit on a player in a year
Stoke will get at least 25% of that.

I think letting him go is bonkers. He won everything in the air, improved greatly and probably in the top three Cheltenham players of the season so-far.

We didn't need to sell, should have held out. If this the way the club is heading : selling our best assets ,then we will never improve as a football club. DC will be off if he does the miracle and keeps us up with a slim squad - he will be poached, like the others.
What? Get relegated and get half of that or wait until the end of next season and get nothing?

Sorry I know it's not what everyone wants to hear but football is a business.
How else is the club supposed to make serious money?
Other than Mo Eisa when have we ever made serious money for a player. £400k is good business but it's not going to significantly change the playing budget.
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I'll say it as no one else has.

THANK YOU mickey moore for making us yet another profit plucking a player from obscurity.
What a man,we miss you.

:lol:
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Stoke on Trent Live reporting thst the sell on fee Stoke are getting is 'significant'.

https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/f ... in-9041725

Read into that what you will.
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Warwickshire Robin wrote: 17 Jan 2024, 20:19 Stoke on Trent Live reporting thst the sell on fee Stoke are getting is 'significant'.

https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/f ... in-9041725

Read into that what you will.
A few on here seem to have knowledge of what the % is. Would be good if that could be shared to stop the speculation
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