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The name most of us feared, given there are several we'd all have in the queue out the door ahead of Kins.
Fuller
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I’m sorry to see this.
Liam always gave 100% and is the sort of lower league player that I’d consider an important member of any club’s squad. I thought he had a great game v Leicester.
But Cotts will have his own ideas of how he wants to build his squad for next season, let’s see how many more leave and how many more new faces we have by the end of this window, and indeed how many of the current squad are still here at the end of August.
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Presumably on higher wages than most what with signing him L1 clearly not in the managers plans.

Feel sorry for him as he seems to have been forced in to being a bit of a journeyman through no fault of his own.
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HamTown wrote: 21 Jan 2026, 21:23 Presumably on higher wages than most what with signing him L1 clearly not in the managers plans.

Feel sorry for him as he seems to have been forced in to being a bit of a journeyman through no fault of his own.
Probably on league two wages as he signed a new contract six months ago at the start of our second season in league two.
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Good point Fuller
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Not football related but Liam’s sister making the sports news. Some on here may have seen her and other family members in the bar post-match in the L1 season.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/gymnastics/ ... gzjyj4jkqo
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I'm gutted by this - I think Kins has been outstanding for us since day one.

Never let himself down, and when called upon has always given his all - he was outstanding in the game against Bristol Rovers for example.

Probably the one thing I've disagreed with Cotts on since he came back is how he's used Kins. I wish him all the best in whatever he goes on to next.
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Shade wrote: 21 Jan 2026, 20:55 The name most of us feared, given there are several we'd all have in the queue out the door ahead of Kins.
Yep, agree with that.
I didn't want to believe it, but he's obviously been offered an decent contract elsewhere.
Surprised Cotts is gambling by letting go a player, whilst not in his starting eleven, he could rely on.
A bit like having a car with no spare wheel.
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Never fall in love with a solid, 7/10 midfielder.

It restores your faith in football fans that an unspectacular player can command such affection through commitment, work ethic and solid ability.

Gutted but wish him all the very best. Always welcome back at Whaddon Road and will get a very warm welcome from this section of block 2.
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Yes pretty gutted with this news myself, both because I really like Kins as a player and how short it potentially leaves our squad when we are not yet completely safe from trouble especially if a few key injuries happen. Really surprised Kins never got much of a look in as he seems the quintessential Steve Cotterill type player. He always made an impact off the bench no more so than at Oldham last Saturday when he made a big difference (along with a few other factors) which resulted in us finishing the game very strongly.

I am all for looking after players but compare this to Bristol Rovers who recall a player from loan seemingly more to weaken a rival than to strengthen themselves, whereas we are weakening ourselves to potentially strengthen a rival depending on where he ends up obviously.

I would assume reinforcements are on the way but here we are 2/3rds of the way through the window and with an already thin squad we have lost three regular starters and usually the first cab off the rank in terms of subs, replacing them with one starter and a kid who it remains to be seen how much impact he has and how much SC trusts him. Hoping to hear more positive news soon!
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Si Robin wrote: 22 Jan 2026, 07:38 I'm gutted by this - I think Kins has been outstanding for us since day one.

Never let himself down, and when called upon has always given his all - he was outstanding in the game against Bristol Rovers for example.

Probably the one thing I've disagreed with Cotts on since he came back is how he's used Kins. I wish him all the best in whatever he goes on to next.
The whole team looking a bit leggy against Swindon at WR at the back end of last year - especially Young and Stevenson - and you've got Kins kicking his heels on the bench RiGHT THERE? springs to mind

Baffling, but I can see that Cotts has got to mould the team to suit his footballing philosophies - but Kins must have got a decent offer from somewhere. Obviously he's a scrapper and would benefit any team, so I (reluctantly) wish him and his family all the best.

Also - he gave us useful cover at RB so if Power goes too, we need backup in two positions🤔

Edit: In future, I just think that I'm not going to have any player names on my CTFC shirts - I get them put on, you fall in love with them, and then they go! My last five have been May, Keena, Bradbury, Kins and Thomas😂
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RS1978 wrote: 22 Jan 2026, 12:49
Si Robin wrote: 22 Jan 2026, 07:38 I'm gutted by this - I think Kins has been outstanding for us since day one.

Never let himself down, and when called upon has always given his all - he was outstanding in the game against Bristol Rovers for example.

Probably the one thing I've disagreed with Cotts on since he came back is how he's used Kins. I wish him all the best in whatever he goes on to next.
The whole team looking a bit leggy against Swindon at WR at the back end of last year - especially Young and Stevenson - and you've got Kins kicking his heels on the bench RiGHT THERE? springs to mind

Baffling, but I can see that Cotts has got to mould the team to suit his footballing philosophies - but Kins must have got a decent offer from somewhere. Obviously he's a scrapper and would benefit any team, so I (reluctantly) wish him and his family all the best.

Also - he gave us useful cover at RB so if Power goes too, we need backup in two positions🤔

Edit: In future, I just think that I'm not going to have any player names on my CTFC shirts - I get them put on, you fall in love with them, and then they go! My last five have been May, Keena, Bradbury, Kins and Thomas😂




That's goodbye to Thomas then.😀
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I'm surprised we've agreed to terminate his contract that's three players now and you'd imagine it won't be long before Bennett follows the same path.
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Rushall Olympic? They're in Walsall...
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Strange move as it‘s 3 levels down and he could clearly play higher. I reckon it‘s Hednesford who are second, getting good gates and spending stupid money. Maybe he‘ll stay full-time with the expectation of promotion, or go part-time (but on what would be a full-time salary for most of us) and develop options outside the game.
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Managerial, coaching or a club with a few bob to spend on wages?
It amazes me the money some individuals and companies are pumping into non league football. Perhaps there’s a few out there thinking they will be the next Wrexham.
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Jerry St Clair wrote: 22 Jan 2026, 11:45 a solid, 7/10 midfielder.
Exactly how I described him to my wife, earlier. Reminds me of Craig Armstrong, back in the day: never spectacular, but workmanlike and would turn in a solid 7 out of 10, week in week out.
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I guess on the plus side we won't miss his goals🤣.

Good luck Kins
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art vandalay wrote: 22 Jan 2026, 15:35 Strange move as it‘s 3 levels down and he could clearly play higher. I reckon it‘s Hednesford who are second, getting good gates and spending stupid money. Maybe he‘ll stay full-time with the expectation of promotion, or go part-time (but on what would be a full-time salary for most of us) and develop options outside the game.
I suspect this is why we've agreed for him to go. He's going part-time and has an opportunity away from football for a full-time job. It's possible this opportunity won't be available in the summer, so he can take it now and carry on playing at a lower level.

The same thing happened with David Bird of course, he left us and never played full-time football again because he had an opportunity away from the game.
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art vandalay wrote: 22 Jan 2026, 15:35 Strange move as it‘s 3 levels down and he could clearly play higher. I reckon it‘s Hednesford who are second, getting good gates and spending stupid money. Maybe he‘ll stay full-time with the expectation of promotion, or go part-time (but on what would be a full-time salary for most of us) and develop options outside the game.
Confirmed. 👏
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If Kins had a single clue what to do with the ball when in sight of the opposition penalty area, he'd be playing in at least League 1 for another few years yet. His work rate and tackling ability, no question he gives it his all and that made him a very important player for us for a while. But with the ball at his feet, especially in the opposition half, is why he has become a bit of a journeyman, as mentioned above. Unfortunately for Kins, Stevenson joined and is just as good in the defensive aspects, and better at ball retention.
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I'm not sure 3 clubs (now 4 with Hednesford) in a 12 year career makes someone a journeyman.
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Shade wrote: 22 Jan 2026, 17:54 If Kins had a single clue what to do with the ball when in sight of the opposition penalty area, he'd be playing in at least League 1 for another few years yet. His work rate and tackling ability, no question he gives it his all and that made him a very important player for us for a while. But with the ball at his feet, especially in the opposition half, is why he has become a bit of a journeyman, as mentioned above. Unfortunately for Kins, Stevenson joined and is just as good in the defensive aspects, and better at ball retention.
But on the other hand Shade, if we (touch wood!) get a suspension/injury to Young or Stevenson, then we're down to Deeming, then Backwell, Sohna and other unfancied players in midfield (obvs unless SC gets in a few experienced guys that he fancies). Also Kins can do a job at FB, so he gave us cover if Tomkinson got injured or Power decided to move on.

Gutted to see Kins go, but he's got ex Robin Chris Hussey over there at Hednesford, and I know that his missus is in Brum so it's an exciting move for him. Kins never lets anyone down👍
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2 and a half year deal so can see the attraction.

If the owner lasts that long is anybody's guess though.
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Si Robin wrote: 22 Jan 2026, 18:26 I'm not sure 3 clubs (now 4 with Hednesford) in a 12 year career makes someone a journeyman.
4th club in 3 years now. Surprised to see he was Walsall for 9 years.
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RS1978 wrote: 22 Jan 2026, 19:01
Shade wrote: 22 Jan 2026, 17:54 If Kins had a single clue what to do with the ball when in sight of the opposition penalty area, he'd be playing in at least League 1 for another few years yet. His work rate and tackling ability, no question he gives it his all and that made him a very important player for us for a while. But with the ball at his feet, especially in the opposition half, is why he has become a bit of a journeyman, as mentioned above. Unfortunately for Kins, Stevenson joined and is just as good in the defensive aspects, and better at ball retention.
But on the other hand Shade, if we (touch wood!) get a suspension/injury to Young or Stevenson, then we're down to Deeming, then Backwell, Sohna and other unfancied players in midfield (obvs unless SC gets in a few experienced guys that he fancies). Also Kins can do a job at FB, so he gave us cover if Tomkinson got injured or Power decided to move on.

Gutted to see Kins go, but he's got ex Robin Chris Hussey over there at Hednesford, and I know that his missus is in Brum so it's an exciting move for him. Kins never lets anyone down👍
Not debating that. If I had the choice then I would have kept him but SC has essentially said he wouldn't be offering him a new contract in the summer, so it's only fair to let him go given he's had an offer closer to home for a much longer deal. For midfield solidity, I'd rather have Kins in the first XI ahead of Young, personally, but if you take Young out, who is taking the set pieces. Nothing against Young either, particularly, I just think Kins' work rate, ability to get back, and tackling would be better than what Young has been offering most weeks.
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HamTown wrote: 22 Jan 2026, 21:42
Si Robin wrote: 22 Jan 2026, 18:26 I'm not sure 3 clubs (now 4 with Hednesford) in a 12 year career makes someone a journeyman.
4th club in 3 years now. Surprised to see he was Walsall for 9 years.
He left Swindon to be nearer home. No reflection on his football.
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paperboy wrote: 22 Jan 2026, 20:04 2 and a half year deal so can see the attraction.

If the owner lasts that long is anybody's guess though.
Hednesford are well supported. Why cast doubt on the owner?
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Jim wrote: 22 Jan 2026, 15:29 Rushall Olympic? They're in Walsall...
Yes, they’re my ‘local’ club watch. Watched ROFC play Hednesford on New Year’s Day. Kinsella will certainly add quality at Northern premier league level. Chris Hussey was playing for Hednesford, best player on the pitch.
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