Re: Cheltenham Town v Harrogate Town
Posted: 13 Dec 2025, 21:03
Day made two very good stops in the first half. Or at least he did in the game I watched.
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Re: Cheltenham Town v Harrogate Town
Posted: 13 Dec 2025, 21:10
Ok thanks. A bit of a misnomer then.Jerry St Clair wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025, 18:55Her Game Too are not exclusively about promoting equality for women. They have a broader objective about promoting diversity in football, hence the rainbow flags. “Football for all”.Shade wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025, 15:55 Might be a bit controversial to mention it in today's climate, I'm sure, but for "Her Game Too," why are the kids walking round with a pride/trans/all the other colours flag? All I mean is for "Her Game Too," surely all it would need is the female sign? Or have the girls had to cave in and have HGT represent "everyone," and not just the girls?
Re: Cheltenham Town v Harrogate Town
Posted: 13 Dec 2025, 22:43
Excellent to see how folk appoint themselves as arbtrators to attempt to define the meaning of her game too. If it is left to the individual to define what her game to relates to then it is meaningless. As a father of daughters I am well aware what they think it means, but I shall tell them they are wrong because some bloke tells them it means anything you want it to mean . Welcome to dystopiaRegencyCheltenhamSpa wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025, 17:53Lol the irony of two blokes trying to dictate what women from Her Game Too should be able to choose to do to represent themselves and Her Game Too at the designated Her Game Too match.Ihearye wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025, 16:34No you are right it has feck all to do with her game, in fact quite the opposite. Women's sport should be for WOMENShade wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025, 15:55 Might be a bit controversial to mention it in today's climate, I'm sure, but for "Her Game Too," why are the kids walking round with a pride/trans/all the other colours flag? All I mean is for "Her Game Too," surely all it would need is the female sign? Or have the girls had to cave in and have HGT represent "everyone," and not just the girls?
Re: Cheltenham Town v Harrogate Town
Posted: 13 Dec 2025, 23:21
And if in doubt please refer to the fa who have decided that trans women can not play in 'womens' football. Unless you as a male have decided that her game too also breaks from that decision and that 'her' does not define a female by birth. Welcome to 2025
Re: Cheltenham Town v Harrogate Town
Posted: 14 Dec 2025, 09:05
Erm it’s up to the CTFC Her Game Too campaign team to support and promote what they want and your daughters to feel about that however they want. No arbitration or instruction needed from anyone else.Ihearye wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025, 22:43Excellent to see how folk appoint themselves as arbtrators to attempt to define the meaning of her game too. If it is left to the individual to define what her game to relates to then it is meaningless. As a father of daughters I am well aware what they think it means, but I shall tell them they are wrong because some bloke tells them it means anything you want it to mean . Welcome to dystopiaRegencyCheltenhamSpa wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025, 17:53Lol the irony of two blokes trying to dictate what women from Her Game Too should be able to choose to do to represent themselves and Her Game Too at the designated Her Game Too match.
FA rules only apply to playing regulations of course. Her Game Too is about fans as well.
Anyway, regardless of what our own views on issues are (I haven’t given a view as it’s irrelevant), debating on here is a little disrespectful to the passion, energy and hard work the CTFC Her Game Too team put in to their activities.
Back on topic - great to see JB get his first goal. Hopefully first of many!
Re: Cheltenham Town v Harrogate Town
Posted: 14 Dec 2025, 09:09
On the incidents yesterday I was right in line with the Hutchinson decision and he appeared to completely miss the ball wasn't a penalty for me. The Cundy one near the end was a 50/50 it would have been soft but I've also seen them given. As for their penalty it is hard to see wether Wilson did get the ball or not but either way it was a reckless challenge that allowed the ref to make the decision and ultimately cost us the win.
In all honestly a draw was a fair result, it was the opposite to Tuesday where our midfield just had not control of the game meaning we struggled to create much at all.
In all honestly a draw was a fair result, it was the opposite to Tuesday where our midfield just had not control of the game meaning we struggled to create much at all.
Re: Cheltenham Town v Harrogate Town
Posted: 14 Dec 2025, 09:42
Exactly my thought at the time: from the Paddock, I couldn't tell whether or not he got the ball - but I did think it was a risky challenge from slightly behind that would probably have been a free-kick anywhere else on the pitch with no complaints. Some (most) around me were adamant that it was never a penalty - so I bow to their superior eyesight from that distance and obviously, from just 10' away, the ref got it wrong.
Re: Cheltenham Town v Harrogate Town
Posted: 14 Dec 2025, 09:45
Anyone on here stand in the Canteen? They probably had the best view apart from the away fans. Jim probably had a really good view from the control tower.
As has been said by a few, a draw was probably a fair result, anyway.
As has been said by a few, a draw was probably a fair result, anyway.
Re: Cheltenham Town v Harrogate Town
Posted: 14 Dec 2025, 10:38
He plays the ball totally. Never a pen.
Re: Cheltenham Town v Harrogate Town
Posted: 14 Dec 2025, 10:44
We lack a physical box-box midfield player who can dominate possession,i wonder if Tomkinson can do that ?Robin wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025, 18:35That's definitely not the case we should have scored a couple early in first half and I think Day only made two saves all game plus we had two very obvious looking penalties turned down. It was certainly a lethargic display against a poor Harrogate team who were probably the worst team to come here this season though.Basildon Robin wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025, 17:00 Judging from the stats and the shots on and off target, I think Cheltenham can be happy with a point. Given the game was a bit of a six pointer it was important just not to lose today.
The pony tail midfielder for Harrogate marked Hutchinson out the game and then tugged him down as he was about to score only for the ref to miss it then subsequently he missed every foul on our players all game including the one on Stevenson in the lead up to their penalty. Truly awful officiating today.
Re: Cheltenham Town v Harrogate Town
Posted: 14 Dec 2025, 10:52
Re: Cheltenham Town v Harrogate Town
Posted: 14 Dec 2025, 12:46
You can clearly see on there though that the Harrogate player is slightly behind him and the ball.
Re: Cheltenham Town v Harrogate Town
Posted: 14 Dec 2025, 15:29
It’s always fascinating how passages of play develop and mistakes compound.
As soon as Tomkinson went flying up on the wing and missed the tackle we said “they’re gonna get in here” and 30 yards of running into vacated space later we were calling “goal coming” and our missed challenges/clearances and poor refereeing followed. Part of me wonders whether the ref also got caught up with a feeling that a counter attack goal was inevitable as they exploited our the gaps left by our ragged shape and mistakes and subconsciously gave the penalty based on that vibe? That whole passage of play from Tomkinson to the ball getting into our box was so rank my first assumption was it must be a penalty just because it fitted the pattern. I couldn’t tell at all from my vantage point on the half way line in the CF but it’s clearly the wrong decision as others have shown.
As soon as Tomkinson went flying up on the wing and missed the tackle we said “they’re gonna get in here” and 30 yards of running into vacated space later we were calling “goal coming” and our missed challenges/clearances and poor refereeing followed. Part of me wonders whether the ref also got caught up with a feeling that a counter attack goal was inevitable as they exploited our the gaps left by our ragged shape and mistakes and subconsciously gave the penalty based on that vibe? That whole passage of play from Tomkinson to the ball getting into our box was so rank my first assumption was it must be a penalty just because it fitted the pattern. I couldn’t tell at all from my vantage point on the half way line in the CF but it’s clearly the wrong decision as others have shown.
Re: Cheltenham Town v Harrogate Town
Posted: 14 Dec 2025, 15:57
Speaking of Wilson being hard done by, did anyone see the incident in the first half where he and a couple others were adamant he took a deliberate elbow? I was following the ball so didn’t see it, but he was having quite a good go at the Lino on the CF Stand side, asking “How didn’t you see that? Huh? Answer me!” before the lino ran off to try to keep up with play.
Re: Cheltenham Town v Harrogate Town
Posted: 14 Dec 2025, 16:05
Yes that was pretty much in front of me,he wasnt happy at all,a little later on he took another elbow.Shade wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025, 15:57 Speaking of Wilson being hard done by, did anyone see the incident in the first half where he and a couple others were adamant he took a deliberate elbow? I was following the ball so didn’t see it, but he was having quite a good go at the Lino on the CF Stand side, asking “How didn’t you see that? Huh? Answer me!” before the lino ran off to try to keep up with play.
I dont know how experienced that lino is but its frustrating from the crowd when you see the lino to scared to make a decision,constantly looking to the ref for the decision despite it being right infront of them.
Re: Cheltenham Town v Harrogate Town
Posted: 14 Dec 2025, 17:00
My thoughts exactly. As soon as Tompkinson made his decision to go for the tackle I said to myself “he’s got to win the ball or we are in trouble.” ProphesyRegencyCheltenhamSpa wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025, 15:29 It’s always fascinating how passages of play develop and mistakes compound.
As soon as Tomkinson went flying up on the wing and missed the tackle we said “they’re gonna get in here” and 30 yards of running into vacated space later we were calling “goal coming” and our missed challenges/clearances and poor refereeing followed. Part of me wonders whether the ref also got caught up with a feeling that a counter attack goal was inevitable as they exploited our the gaps left by our ragged shape and mistakes and subconsciously gave the penalty based on that vibe? That whole passage of play from Tomkinson to the ball getting into our box was so rank my first assumption was it must be a penalty just because it fitted the pattern. I couldn’t tell at all from my vantage point on the half way line in the CF but it’s clearly the wrong decision as others have shown.
Re: Cheltenham Town v Harrogate Town
Posted: 14 Dec 2025, 17:10
Couldn’t believe how only a handful of us in the CF Block 4 stood up and gave the lino a right mouthful. Any other ground half the home supporters would have given the official a right blasting. But not in “genteel Cheltenham.” I wish more of our supporters in the CF showed a bit more passion at such times.CS85 wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025, 16:05Yes that was pretty much in front of me,he wasnt happy at all,a little later on he took another elbow.Shade wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025, 15:57 Speaking of Wilson being hard done by, did anyone see the incident in the first half where he and a couple others were adamant he took a deliberate elbow? I was following the ball so didn’t see it, but he was having quite a good go at the Lino on the CF Stand side, asking “How didn’t you see that? Huh? Answer me!” before the lino ran off to try to keep up with play.
I dont know how experienced that lino is but its frustrating from the crowd when you see the lino to scared to make a decision,constantly looking to the ref for the decision despite it being right infront of them.
Re: Cheltenham Town v Harrogate Town
Posted: 15 Dec 2025, 09:03
Hutchinson musn`t let anyone man-mark him by getting into space earlier and demanding the ball ?Robin wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025, 18:35That's definitely not the case we should have scored a couple early in first half and I think Day only made two saves all game plus we had two very obvious looking penalties turned down. It was certainly a lethargic display against a poor Harrogate team who were probably the worst team to come here this season though.Basildon Robin wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025, 17:00 Judging from the stats and the shots on and off target, I think Cheltenham can be happy with a point. Given the game was a bit of a six pointer it was important just not to lose today.
The pony tail midfielder for Harrogate marked Hutchinson out the game and then tugged him down as he was about to score only for the ref to miss it then subsequently he missed every foul on our players all game including the one on Stevenson in the lead up to their penalty. Truly awful officiating today.
Re: Cheltenham Town v Harrogate Town
Posted: 15 Dec 2025, 09:21
It was a daft, out of character piece of decision-making by Wilson. The Harrogate player had run out of steam and was going nowhere. We had good cover in the six yard box so all Wilson had to do was stay on his feet, shepherd him towards the touchline and the worst outcome would likely have been a block on the cross and a corner.
It wasn’t a penalty but you should only be going in two-footed as an absolute last resort. That situation was far from a last resort.
Re: Cheltenham Town v Harrogate Town
Posted: 15 Dec 2025, 10:04
tbf Martin just had to jocky the defender rather than fly in and allow the passage of play to start that ended with the pen , the ball was in the far corner of their half, no concerns whatsoever.Jerry St Clair wrote: ↑15 Dec 2025, 09:21It was a daft, out of character piece of decision-making by Wilson. The Harrogate player had run out of steam and was going nowhere. We had good cover in the six yard box so all Wilson had to do was stay on his feet, shepherd him towards the touchline and the worst outcome would likely have been a block on the cross and a corner.
It wasn’t a penalty but you should only be going in two-footed as an absolute last resort. That situation was far from a last resort.