I'd keep Boyle on but only so we can make more changes in midfield - Sercombe for Chapman and Bonds for Colkett. Feels like another one of those weird games where if we get one we could get a few. We've had a couple of promising moments especially through Etete.RegencyCheltenhamSpa wrote: ↑18 Apr 2022, 14:53Make this change at HT.RegencyCheltenhamSpa wrote: ↑18 Apr 2022, 14:22 Revert to three at the back.
Freestone and Pollock on for Boyle and Ramsey please.
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Definitely. If we can get one without conceding again there is every chance we could witness yet another crazy comeback. This would possibly be the craziest. It doesn't feel like that is going to happen, but then I never gave us a hope at Accrington.
Doesn't look at all likely any more. It's like we're settling for the 3-0.
Not that anyone is playing well, but Colkett is having a pretty abysmal game as well. Permanently on his heels. The way some of the lads are passing or not controlling the ball it looks like the journey to Lincoln took 10 hours and they only got off the coach just before the match.
You're not alone. I don't want to be sensationalist and I'm not dreading it or anything like that before we see what is done over the summer, but I think there will be significant changes in all departments of the pitch and there is always danger when a squad changes like that. Sercombe, Boyle, Wright, Etete, Flinders, Thomas and possibly May, if someone were to offer enough, is A LOT of first teamers to replace in one go. OK, Flinders isn't first team now but he has a lot of experience.
Warwickshire Robin wrote: ↑18 Apr 2022, 14:40I think he's just one of those whose game doesn't suit our style of play at all. His movement is very good but we dont have the players who give it to him quick enough or players who move quick enough for him to pass too. You will probably find that Championship level will suit his game more than league 1Shade wrote:How is Ramsey a Villa prospect. It's been said before bit he offers nothing (cue a goal from him)
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We are hardly a kick it and lump it team, in fact we largely play the ball to feet. The problem with Ramsay is that he cannot beat a man or pick at pass at this level so he often just loses the ball. Not to mention he cannot win many tackles. You can have all the movement in the world but when you cannot do the basics it's worthless.I'd be amazed if he's not back at this level on loan next season after bulking up a bit in the summer. We've got a lot of transfers right in recent years but the two recent ones from Villa have been well below par.
He's probably better than Freestone but not sure you'd want to see either of them playing regularly at this level unless they improve.
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I'm not saying we are a kick and lump it team by any means, I'm just saying that he is probably used to a different style of play coming from an Academy and is struggling to adapt to the extra hustle and bustle of League 1. Some adjust quickly and some like Ramsey don't.Robin wrote:Warwickshire Robin wrote: ↑18 Apr 2022, 14:40I think he's just one of those whose game doesn't suit our style of play at all. His movement is very good but we dont have the players who give it to him quick enough or players who move quick enough for him to pass too. You will probably find that Championship level will suit his game more than league 1Shade wrote:How is Ramsey a Villa prospect. It's been said before bit he offers nothing (cue a goal from him)
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I'd be amazed if he's not back at this level on loan next season after bulking up a bit in the summer. We've got a lot of transfers right in recent years but the two recent ones from Villa have been well below par.
I'm personally not a fan and wouldn't be playing him as he hasnt done enough to warrant a place in my view, but as i said earlier its the gamble you make taking these Prem youngsters on loan and if we dont play them then the reputation for developing players goes and teams would be less likely to loan us the likes of Greaves, Wright, Etete etc.
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It really depends on how many go, we know that Wright , Etete , and Pollock will be going - and the contracts of Flinders, Harris, Boyle, Hutchinson, Thomas, Sercombe, Chapman, Colkett, Barkers, and A Williams are up at the end of the season, but we can only speculate on which of these will be kept or released and/or turn down new contracts.
If all of the above list go it does indeed leave the squad looking thread bare. In Duff we trust.
If all of the above list go it does indeed leave the squad looking thread bare. In Duff we trust.
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Hutch and Lewis are still improving. A pre-season with Duff and they will be good enough matchday squad players. Freestone may start depending who we sign. Really we need to sign 2 or 3 mobile centre backs.
The Boy might be irreplaceable but the other loans will be easy enough to replace.
Duff and Moore will already have their wish list for loans and/or permanents, and if anyone can spot and coach the quality we need it is them.
The more pressing concern is whether the Board can give them the budget they want to secure first choices on the list.
The Boy might be irreplaceable but the other loans will be easy enough to replace.
Duff and Moore will already have their wish list for loans and/or permanents, and if anyone can spot and coach the quality we need it is them.
The more pressing concern is whether the Board can give them the budget they want to secure first choices on the list.
Pompey are looking to sign Wright this summer apparently, had scouts at a number of our games to watch him.RegencyCheltenhamSpa wrote: ↑18 Apr 2022, 18:06 Hutch and Lewis are still improving. A pre-season with Duff and they will be good enough matchday squad players. Freestone may start depending who we sign. Really we need to sign 2 or 3 mobile centre backs.
The Boy might be irreplaceable but the other loans will be easy enough to replace.
Duff and Moore will already have their wish list for loans and/or permanents, and if anyone can spot and coach the quality we need it is them.
The more pressing concern is whether the Board can give them the budget they want to secure first choices on the list.
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Yes, I wasn’t wanting to criticise Ramsey and your point about Wright’s age is a good one.Warwickshire Robin wrote: ↑18 Apr 2022, 14:55Totally agree but Callum has got nearly 3 years more experience than Ramsey who only turned 19 in January. As i said previously just dont think Ramsey is ready for League 1 at the moment.RegencyCheltenhamSpa wrote:Wright manages to get the ball in space and play balls to others who get in to dangerous spaces.Warwickshire Robin wrote: ↑18 Apr 2022, 14:40 I think he's just one of those whose game doesn't suit our style of play at all. His movement is very good but we dont have the players who give it to him quick enough or players who move quick enough for him to pass too. You will probably find that Championship level will suit his game more than league 1
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Ramsey should have at least made the keeper work on Friday to finish that good team move but took too many touches and let a defender block.
Funny I find myself defending him here as I have the same frustration as everyone else but just trying to put a case for him!
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Ramsey has shown some very good desire, skill and movement in some games and made an impact off the bench with positive forward play.
Most notably against Wimbledon where he came on and looked to get forward, with his run and shot rebounding for Wright to score. He was also part of the move for the second goal.
Duff has given him a decent amount of time and there must be a reason why.
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Awful performance but they happen. We're currently a mid table league 1 side. For every game like this there's games like beating Charlton and Sunderland.
Have to say I thought some of our support were absolutely shocking today. Constantly berating the players. Booing off Chapman. Chanting "F***ing useless" towards the end. We've just achieved our highest ever League 1 points total. Perspective is needed.
Have to say I thought some of our support were absolutely shocking today. Constantly berating the players. Booing off Chapman. Chanting "F***ing useless" towards the end. We've just achieved our highest ever League 1 points total. Perspective is needed.
How depressing that he would want (not saying he will) to go to Fratton Park and be clumsily managed by the Cowley Clowns, utter frauds the pair of them.Robin wrote: ↑18 Apr 2022, 19:25Pompey are looking to sign Wright this summer apparently, had scouts at a number of our games to watch him.RegencyCheltenhamSpa wrote: ↑18 Apr 2022, 18:06 Hutch and Lewis are still improving. A pre-season with Duff and they will be good enough matchday squad players. Freestone may start depending who we sign. Really we need to sign 2 or 3 mobile centre backs.
The Boy might be irreplaceable but the other loans will be easy enough to replace.
Duff and Moore will already have their wish list for loans and/or permanents, and if anyone can spot and coach the quality we need it is them.
The more pressing concern is whether the Board can give them the budget they want to secure first choices on the list.
This^^ money must be made available if we are to bulk up the squad with enough quality to stick around in this league.RegencyCheltenhamSpa wrote: ↑18 Apr 2022, 18:06 The more pressing concern is whether the Board can give them the budget they want to secure first choices on the list.
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That’s sad to hear and makes you question what these so-called fans expect.Mark Corrigan wrote: ↑19 Apr 2022, 08:36 Awful performance but they happen. We're currently a mid table league 1 side. For every game like this there's games like beating Charlton and Sunderland.
Have to say I thought some of our support were absolutely shocking today. Constantly berating the players. Booing off Chapman. Chanting "F***ing useless" towards the end. We've just achieved our highest ever League 1 points total. Perspective is needed.
A few years ago I rounded up a group of friends who don’t usually go to games to join me at an away game.
They vowed never to go to a game again, not because we lost but because of the other ‘fans’ abusing the team and booing and singing “f*cking useless” as you describe.
Not only does such moronic behaviour impact negatively on the players, it also puts normal fans off attending.
It is what you expect from a club on a downward spiral where the fans are not united and are disconnected from the manager, players and owners/Board.
But we are at the greatest moment in the Club’s history in the highest ever position with some of the best ever players. The Board, manager, dressing room and fans have until now been in a good place with a good relationship.
If ‘fans’ are going to boo and abuse like that then we have to ask: why do they bother watching and why should the team bother trying?
What’s the incentive for Duff to sign a new contract or players like Wright to return to us if their reward for the most successful season ever is being booed and having “f*cking useless” chanted at them.
Maybe these ‘fans’ should take a few weeks off and let normal fans enjoy the end of the season.
I do wonder how Accy seem to be fine and maintain a higher budget than us with home crowds roughly 1500 lower than us and with cheaper ticket prices toolongmover wrote: ↑19 Apr 2022, 09:17This^^ money must be made available if we are to bulk up the squad with enough quality to stick around in this league.RegencyCheltenhamSpa wrote: ↑18 Apr 2022, 18:06 The more pressing concern is whether the Board can give them the budget they want to secure first choices on the list.
North West location is perfect for a wealth of players that don't make it to the big time or have made it but want to still play at a lower level, no relocation costs, I should imagine Accy have some other source of funds as well as their crowds wouldn't fund much in league two never mind league one.Robin wrote: ↑19 Apr 2022, 12:00I do wonder how Accy seem to be fine and maintain a higher budget than us with home crowds roughly 1500 lower than us and with cheaper ticket prices toolongmover wrote: ↑19 Apr 2022, 09:17This^^ money must be made available if we are to bulk up the squad with enough quality to stick around in this league.RegencyCheltenhamSpa wrote: ↑18 Apr 2022, 18:06 The more pressing concern is whether the Board can give them the budget they want to secure first choices on the list.