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asl
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I thought he was a cut above anyone else we had, but a bit of a wildcard - a bit of a lower-league Gazza, maybe.
Si Robin
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It may well be League 2 is his level.

No doubt exciting on the ball, but I honestly didn't see any end product in him during his time at Cheltenham. In his 15 appearances with us I don't recall a goal or an assist from him.
horlickfanclub
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Won us free kicks around the box and could hold on to the ball for more than one second. Better than anyone we have now and has found the right Manager and a team that responds to him. Maybe he has found his level at Notts County but that is above us. I would like to have seen Keena in a team with Crowley passing to him.
paperboy
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horlickfanclub wrote: 13 Oct 2023, 14:59 Won us free kicks around the box and could hold on to the ball for more than one second. Better than anyone we have now and has found the right Manager and a team that responds to him. Maybe he has found his level at Notts County but that is above us. I would like to have seen Keena in a team with Crowley passing to him.


Crowley is a brilliant player to watch, but suited to playing in a dominant team where his defensive fragility isn't too much of an issue.
Not sure he could turn Keena into a goal machine in League 1 though imo.
RegencyCheltenhamSpa
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horlickfanclub wrote: 13 Oct 2023, 14:59 Won us free kicks around the box and could hold on to the ball for more than one second. Better than anyone we have now and has found the right Manager and a team that responds to him. Maybe he has found his level at Notts County but that is above us. I would like to have seen Keena in a team with Crowley passing to him.
Crowley has to get the ball first which he wouldn’t for us currently. Given he won’t press or stick to a shape, he isn’t going to get much of the ball as we rely on 11 players having to do that. If we were a big budget and dominant top of the league side it would be different.

We are struggling enough with players not fit enough to run and press as we need them to. Last thing which will help is players who just don’t want to.

That’s why Duff stopped playing him and why our results picked up when he was dropped. We are not a high-possession dominant team, which is what Crowley needs around him.
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Shade
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He's a player that will do well in a team that can afford to have him, ie one with probably 9 other good outfield players for League Two. As we've seen, stick him in a team where everyone needs to dig in towards the bottom of League One and he didn't produce. But as mentioned, he may have just found that club, style and manager that works for him and everything clicks. It's been seen before, especially here at Cheltenham, players with unremarkable careers who suddenly find their feet at a club. When they leave, thinking they can do better, it all unravels again.
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Hes in a different role since Jan 1st. He's playing as a central attacking midfielder, not as a defensive midfielder, as someone commented better than what weve got, the stats prove that. Also hes not just done it for NC he done it at Morecambe who were relegated, so hes done it at astruggling club as well
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Hes in a different role since Jan 1st. He's playing as a central attacking midfielder, not as a defensive midfielder, as someone commented better than what weve got, the stats prove that. Also hes not just done it for NC he done it at Morecambe who were relegated, so hes done it at astruggling club as well
RegencyCheltenhamSpa
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shevates wrote: 13 Oct 2023, 17:31 Hes in a different role since Jan 1st. He's playing as a central attacking midfielder, not as a defensive midfielder, as someone commented better than what weve got, the stats prove that. Also hes not just done it for NC he done it at Morecambe who were relegated, so hes done it at astruggling club as well
Look at the goals Morecambe shipped whilst getting relegated. Playing with essentially nine outfield players pressing and running rather than ten will have contributed to their relegation.

For teams like us, even attacking players have ti be disciplined to play a certain way out of possession.
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Im meant to listen to someone who says Keena would be leading goalscorer, we would finish at least in the same position as last season, bonds with his superb passing, and stay up losing 25 games just like FGR did last season, and theres us sitting pretty at the bottom with 2 draws. Be impossible for someone like Crowley to make us worse, but its all about opinions
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Crowley scored for Notts County today, but they lost 1-4 to Mansfield.
Top two clash so might not see either side next season.
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Fuller wrote: 14 Oct 2023, 14:00 Crowley scored for Notts County today, but they lost 1-4 to Mansfield.
Top two clash so might not see either side next season.
10 against 9 outfield players. Fine when flat track bullying but County obviously can’t carry Crowley in a top of the table clash when everyone has to be running.
Jerry St Clair
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Taylor Perry with a late, scrambled, equaliser for Shrewsbury at Cambridge.

That's the kind of goal-poacher we desperately need.
horlickfanclub
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RegencyCheltenhamSpa wrote: 14 Oct 2023, 15:02
Fuller wrote: 14 Oct 2023, 14:00 Crowley scored for Notts County today, but they lost 1-4 to Mansfield.
Top two clash so might not see either side next season.
10 against 9 outfield players. Fine when flat track bullying but County obviously can’t carry Crowley in a top of the table clash when everyone has to be running.
Let down by the defence. Park run was this morning.
paperboy
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Kaid Mohammed jailed for drug offences again.
11 years this time.
Obviously can't run as fast as he used to.
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Shade
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What an absolute bellend. He was on £75k a year when he was at Cheltenham (at least, that's what he declared) so he must have had at least £300k+ income over 4 years of his football career from joining us up until leaving Port Vale.
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longmover
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Shade wrote: 17 Oct 2023, 18:56 What an absolute bellend. He was on £75k a year when he was at Cheltenham (at least, that's what he declared) so he must have had at least £300k+ income over 4 years of his football career from joining us up until leaving Port Vale.
what he earns doesn’t mean anything, if you’re living well beyond your means or in someone’s debt.

or he just likes that ‘lifestyle’ that comes with a rather large risk.
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Shade
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longmover wrote: 17 Oct 2023, 19:24
Shade wrote: 17 Oct 2023, 18:56 What an absolute bellend. He was on £75k a year when he was at Cheltenham (at least, that's what he declared) so he must have had at least £300k+ income over 4 years of his football career from joining us up until leaving Port Vale.
what he earns doesn’t mean anything, if you’re living well beyond your means or in someone’s debt.

or he just likes that ‘lifestyle’ that comes with a rather large risk.
Of course it means something. He should have been well-off and setting himself up for football retirement. He was a bellend, whether he did it because he ran out of money or if he did it because he liked the "lifestyle". Especially having already gone down for it once before.
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longmover
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Shade wrote: 17 Oct 2023, 22:27
longmover wrote: 17 Oct 2023, 19:24
Shade wrote: 17 Oct 2023, 18:56 What an absolute bellend. He was on £75k a year when he was at Cheltenham (at least, that's what he declared) so he must have had at least £300k+ income over 4 years of his football career from joining us up until leaving Port Vale.
what he earns doesn’t mean anything, if you’re living well beyond your means or in someone’s debt.

or he just likes that ‘lifestyle’ that comes with a rather large risk.
Of course it means something. He should have been well-off and setting himself up for football retirement. He was a bellend, whether he did it because he ran out of money or if he did it because he liked the "lifestyle". Especially having already gone down for it once before.

‘free will’, we may never know why he chose this path. just because you earn a substantial amount of money doesn’t automatically exclude you from a life of crime.
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Shade
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longmover wrote: 18 Oct 2023, 07:06
Shade wrote: 17 Oct 2023, 22:27
longmover wrote: 17 Oct 2023, 19:24

what he earns doesn’t mean anything, if you’re living well beyond your means or in someone’s debt.

or he just likes that ‘lifestyle’ that comes with a rather large risk.
Of course it means something. He should have been well-off and setting himself up for football retirement. He was a bellend, whether he did it because he ran out of money or if he did it because he liked the "lifestyle". Especially having already gone down for it once before.

‘free will’, we may never know why he chose this path. just because you earn a substantial amount of money doesn’t automatically exclude you from a life of crime.
Not really sure what your point is. I'm aware people have free will. It doesn't make him any less of a bellend, in my opinion. He had money, he should have been set and not got involved with drugs.
RegencyCheltenhamSpa
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I still remember that snorter of a goal against Bristol Rovers when he cut in from the line and didn’t give the defenders a sniff.
paperboy
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RegencyCheltenhamSpa wrote: 18 Oct 2023, 12:27 I still remember that snorter of a goal against Bristol Rovers when he cut in from the line and didn’t give the defenders a sniff.
A hat trick there RCS.
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Shade
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paperboy wrote: 18 Oct 2023, 12:58
RegencyCheltenhamSpa wrote: 18 Oct 2023, 12:27 I still remember that snorter of a goal against Bristol Rovers when he cut in from the line and didn’t give the defenders a sniff.
A hat trick there RCS.
That isn't punny.
RegencyCheltenhamSpa
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I wonder how many of our own Burberry scarfed toilet cubicle visitors had sourced their match day substances from Mo’s gang.
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paperboy wrote: 18 Oct 2023, 12:58
RegencyCheltenhamSpa wrote: 18 Oct 2023, 12:27 I still remember that snorter of a goal against Bristol Rovers when he cut in from the line and didn’t give the defenders a sniff.
A hat trick there RCS.
Quadruple
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duckers
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Made everyone buzz their tits off
Jerry St Clair
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RegencyCheltenhamSpa wrote: 18 Oct 2023, 12:27 I still remember that snorter of a goal against Bristol Rovers when he cut in from the line and didn’t give the defenders a sniff.
Yes, he gave it a right smack, didn't he?
CTFCfan99
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Glen Rea signs for Worthing... :shock:
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Shade
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CTFCfan99 wrote: 24 Oct 2023, 15:28 Glen Rea signs for Worthing... :shock:
U wot?!
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SOFT MACHINE
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Local lad - born in Brighton. Returning home.
horlickfanclub
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Dan Crowley scores again for Notts County.
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Pie
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Sam Foley scored against FFG last night in Barrows 2-0 win.
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Shade
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SOFT MACHINE wrote: 24 Oct 2023, 15:56 Local lad - born in Brighton. Returning home.
Maybe so but he's only 29 and better than National League South level.
horlickfanclub
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Shade wrote: 25 Oct 2023, 14:26
SOFT MACHINE wrote: 24 Oct 2023, 15:56 Local lad - born in Brighton. Returning home.
Maybe so but he's only 29 and better than National League South level.
Non contract so maybe he will keep fit and move up a few levels in January.
plymrob
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Not sure how we missed out.. but Matt Smith continues to do pretty well across the leagues...?
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