Derby County
Posted: 08 Jan 2022, 12:36
Just when their fans think things can scarcely get any worse... https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59917872
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oh Wayne you reap what you sowFourth official - a lack of respect in how he speaks to you," said Rooney.
Out of interest, when Derby were making it to the playoff were you and your son cheering on Mel Morris’ spending and the club’s transfer policy, or were you questioning where the money was coming from and raising concerns about overspending?plymrob wrote: ↑17 May 2022, 16:22 My kids were born in Derbyshire and my 30+ yo son in a DCFC fan. Surely a good thing? He does though watch CTFC with me for a live fottball fix..
There was me thinking one might expect some sympathy for DCFC fans from fellow fans...? There are clubs that have been badly administered... Derby is one. Dare I say, there might be others... A well meaning sugar-daddy (not sure there is yet a female term) down the years has probably contributed to financial downfall of various teams... It's not the fans fault...
At a lower level, although we played them one season in the 1990s when I lived there, Ilkeston Town have been bankrupted twice since - but are happily rising again... What happened to the Che Adams money...? Ask Dave Mantle...? But if you know him, do please give him a wide berth! Rushden, Kettering, Swindon, Wigan, Bury...? And, as I see, it, the income and expenditure of many clubs still at the higher echelon, are often being being queried... Dare I suggest, nowadays, the authorities would struggle with a decision to take points off most leading Premiership teams...? Lower league level to Championship is more do-able...
So, just maybe, it's more about team owners spending money above their own or club's income and/or their average/likely or aspired for 'station'...? DCFC should or could surely be sustainable on their average gates...? Hopefully, a lesson learnt by them (and what could the fans realistically do to change things?). But, I would say, have they now been punished? So, why the hatred? They are League One... Please save your hostility for closer to home comparables moving forward!
For me and my son... Plymouth, Exeter, Derby next season... That's a good thing at this end of the country... Question is... how do we deal with the real Derby games... ! Who's at which end!
I didn’t know it’s that easy to get out of League One. Someone should have told Sunderland, Ipswich, Bolton, Portsmouth and a host of other clubs. Leeds would have welcomed the news when they were stuck in the division for a few years.longmover wrote: ↑17 May 2022, 13:25 So Derby more than likely have a new owner, BIG money thrown at Rooney to stay, BIG money thrown at players to come to Derby, HUGE season ticket sales. One season in the third tier in front of record crowds with the media dripping themselves in a Rooney / derby orgy and they're back in the champ, not much of a deterrent it it?
LOL, lesson learnt even funnier, I'm sure if derby had got to the prem (on bent money and bent accounting) none of this wouldn't be an issue to anyone associated with Derby (that's for the little clubs to worry about) but now its come back to bite they expect everyone to feel sorry for them as its "not the fans fault"plymrob wrote: ↑17 May 2022, 16:22 My kids were born in Derbyshire and my 30+ yo son in a DCFC fan. Surely a good thing? He does though watch CTFC with me for a live fottball fix..
There was me thinking one might expect some sympathy for DCFC fans from fellow fans...? There are clubs that have been badly administered... Derby is one. Dare I say, there might be others... A well meaning sugar-daddy (not sure there is yet a female term) down the years has probably contributed to financial downfall of various teams... It's not the fans fault...
At a lower level, although we played them one season in the 1990s when I lived there, Ilkeston Town have been bankrupted twice since - but are happily rising again... What happened to the Che Adams money...? Ask Dave Mantle...? But if you know him, do please give him a wide berth! Rushden, Kettering, Swindon, Wigan, Bury...? And, as I see, it, the income and expenditure of many clubs still at the higher echelon, are often being being queried... Dare I suggest, nowadays, the authorities would struggle with a decision to take points off most leading Premiership teams...? Lower league level to Championship is more do-able...
So, just maybe, it's more about team owners spending money above their own or club's income and/or their average/likely or aspired for 'station'...? DCFC should or could surely be sustainable on their average gates...? Hopefully, a lesson learnt by them (and what could the fans realistically do to change things?). But, I would say, have they now been punished? So, why the hatred? They are League One... Please save your hostility for closer to home comparables moving forward!
For me and my son... Plymouth, Exeter, Derby next season... That's a good thing at this end of the country... Question is... how do we deal with the real Derby games... ! Who's at which end!
Exactly. I feel sorry for any fan who was questioning Morris and expressing concern about unsustainable spending. Any fan who was just cheering on is part of the problem and won’t get any sympathy from me. Enjoy L1.longmover wrote: ↑18 May 2022, 09:07LOL, lesson learnt even funnier, I'm sure if derby had got to the prem (on bent money and bent accounting) none of this wouldn't be an issue to anyone associated with Derby (that's for the little clubs to worry about) but now its come back to bite they expect everyone to feel sorry for them as its "not the fans fault"plymrob wrote: ↑17 May 2022, 16:22 My kids were born in Derbyshire and my 30+ yo son in a DCFC fan. Surely a good thing? He does though watch CTFC with me for a live fottball fix..
There was me thinking one might expect some sympathy for DCFC fans from fellow fans...? There are clubs that have been badly administered... Derby is one. Dare I say, there might be others... A well meaning sugar-daddy (not sure there is yet a female term) down the years has probably contributed to financial downfall of various teams... It's not the fans fault...
At a lower level, although we played them one season in the 1990s when I lived there, Ilkeston Town have been bankrupted twice since - but are happily rising again... What happened to the Che Adams money...? Ask Dave Mantle...? But if you know him, do please give him a wide berth! Rushden, Kettering, Swindon, Wigan, Bury...? And, as I see, it, the income and expenditure of many clubs still at the higher echelon, are often being being queried... Dare I suggest, nowadays, the authorities would struggle with a decision to take points off most leading Premiership teams...? Lower league level to Championship is more do-able...
So, just maybe, it's more about team owners spending money above their own or club's income and/or their average/likely or aspired for 'station'...? DCFC should or could surely be sustainable on their average gates...? Hopefully, a lesson learnt by them (and what could the fans realistically do to change things?). But, I would say, have they now been punished? So, why the hatred? They are League One... Please save your hostility for closer to home comparables moving forward!
For me and my son... Plymouth, Exeter, Derby next season... That's a good thing at this end of the country... Question is... how do we deal with the real Derby games... ! Who's at which end!
Other "big" clubs have been relegated and have endured more than season at the third level, Sunderland, Sheffield Wednesday, Portsmouth, Ipswich etc, and so it is not a foregone conclusion that Derby will be promoted straightaway.longmover wrote: ↑17 May 2022, 13:25 So Derby more than likely have a new owner, BIG money thrown at Rooney to stay, BIG money thrown at players to come to Derby, HUGE season ticket sales. One season in the third tier in front of record crowds with the media dripping themselves in a Rooney / derby orgy and they're back in the champ, not much of a deterrent it it?
Exactly. Someone should have said that earlier.Red Duke wrote: ↑18 May 2022, 13:04Other "big" clubs have been relegated and have endured more than season at the third level, Sunderland, Sheffield Wednesday, Portsmouth, Ipswich etc, and so it is not a foregone conclusion that Derby will be promoted straightaway.longmover wrote: ↑17 May 2022, 13:25 So Derby more than likely have a new owner, BIG money thrown at Rooney to stay, BIG money thrown at players to come to Derby, HUGE season ticket sales. One season in the third tier in front of record crowds with the media dripping themselves in a Rooney / derby orgy and they're back in the champ, not much of a deterrent it it?
If Cheltenham suddenly started spending the same on transfers as Sheffield Wednesday and Sunderland then people would quite rightly be protesting. As Cheltenham fans we have that link to Rushden and Diamonds and recognise a house built on sand when we see one.plymrob wrote: ↑18 May 2022, 15:13 I probably did not articulate clearly enough for some... but Derby have had their punishment (and might face more). They have paid the price... I think my son was on board before Morris... and I wish DCC well securing the ground with that man benefiting as little as possible. (Why should ratepayers step in...? Ask Argyle...!). I would agree DCFC (and others) have over invested chasing a promotion, and over long over invested - but surely that's no reason to disrespect the fans... or what they support/follow? What say do we supporters have to manage the Board except for a generously funded seat, thanks to a deceased benefactor?
So fans should rebel and stand against any extra financial backing... ? Thank goodness we survive with gate income and no loans... Cayman Islands anyone?
Again, I thought I had tried to explain that I think there are many clubs guilty - and did we not have a weak moment in that regard a few years back? Just saying...!
I'm happy. I/we probably never expected to be playing each other... but we will. Brilliant! I'm just trying to side with the average football fan, plus fans who support the club of their birth... But clearly a flawed attempt.
Because they have potential to earn the EFL a lot of money and the EFL don't want small clubs in the football league.RegencyCheltenhamSpa wrote: ↑15 Jun 2022, 22:14 Close the club. As Longmover says, the likes of Macclesfield were kicked out the league and shut down. Why do Derby get special treatment?