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1985CTFC
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Our first 10 league fixtures covering August and September.

What would be an acceptable total points return from the 10 games? ( this number being the number you think we will get)

What number of total points would you be 'over the moon' with? ( be realistic)

What number of total points would you be disappointed with?

Will post my numbers in a while.

Shrewsbury – Away
Bolton – Home
Reading – Away
Portsmouth – Away
Northampton – Home
Barnsley – Home
Peterboro – Away
Exeter – Away
Stevenage – Home
Lincoln - Away
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I reckon we can get 15 on the board from those.
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Right now, I'd be quite content with 12 from that lot in all honesty. Over the moon with 15+. I won't be worrying too much if we only have 7 or 8, as the fixtures after that should be where we're picking up more points, but I think we can cause a couple of upsets there too. Really hope we get 3 points on the opening day, just because of how many ex-Cheltenham they've got there now. Off the top of my head it's 6.

However, game by game expectations and hopes will change.
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The football gods have not been kind.

Let's be honest that is a very difficult first 10 games.

I think we can get 10 pts.

Would be over the moon with 12/13 TBH.

I'm hoping we are a surprise package this season.

Win a couple games early doors and who knows.

Reading are in turmoil...we always play well against Bolton...every game looks tough though in that list
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Assuming we need 50 points for the season then that is 1.08 ppg. So round up to 11 points from the first ten games to be on track.

I’d be disappointed with fewer than 7 points. Over the moon with more than 20.
1985CTFC
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Over the moon with 18 points
Slightly disappointed with 10 points
Acceptable 14 points

Don't think the fixtures get that much easier month by month.
Guess it depends how Reading Barnsley and Peterboro start off with the changes they have made.
We know what to expect from Portsmouth and Bolton

We need to get points off the so called smaller/weaker sides which we failed to do some of the time last year.
1985CTFC
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Will revisit this thread after 10 games to see which of us has the clairvoyant touch.
Get your crystal balls out.
Answers before start of season though!!
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Shrewsbury – win
Bolton – lose
Reading – draw
Portsmouth – lose
Northampton – win
Barnsley – lose
Peterboro – lose
Exeter – draw
Stevenage – win
Lincoln - draw

Realistically lose to Northampton and Stevenage and scalp the “big boys”.
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Shrewsbury – Away - 1
Bolton – Home - 1
Reading – Away - 3
Portsmouth – Away - 0
Northampton – Home - 1
Barnsley – Home - 1
Peterboro – Away - 0
Exeter – Away - 0
Stevenage – Home 3
Lincoln - Away - 1

11 points and I'd be OTM,

One or two wins from the opening 10 would be brilliant. My Reading prediction is based on them being a total mess at the moment. Reuben Selles might have got them much more settled in the next three weeks.
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CTFC.Harry wrote: 24 Jul 2023, 18:59 Shrewsbury – win
Bolton – lose
Reading – draw
Portsmouth – lose
Northampton – win
Barnsley – lose
Peterboro – lose
Exeter – draw
Stevenage – win
Lincoln - draw

Realistically lose to Northampton and Stevenage and scalp the “big boys”.
That's 12 points.
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I will wait until we have a few more signings in the squad before making any predictions.
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Robin wrote: 24 Jul 2023, 19:55 I will wait until we have a few more signings in the squad before making any predictions.
Go on do one now. We are not getting Harry Kane !
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A good way of approaching this is to consider it like spread betting.

At what point would you pitch the spread to attract an equal number of buyers and sellers?

My pitch would be 12.5/13.5.

In other words my estimate is 13 points from those 10 games.
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Just imagine winning the first and second game!!!! Last year we beat Shrews at Shrews and didn't we beat Bolton at home? 6 points in the bag then!!!!
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Shrewsbury – Away -draw
Bolton – Home - draw
Reading – Away -lose
Portsmouth – Away-lose
Northampton – Home - win
Barnsley – home- win
Peterboro – Away - lose
Exeter – away - win
Stevenage – home -draw
Lincoln - Away- lose
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1985CTFC wrote: 24 Jul 2023, 20:02
Robin wrote: 24 Jul 2023, 19:55 I will wait until we have a few more signings in the squad before making any predictions.
Go on do one now. We are not getting Harry Kane !
We have several more players to come in which will influence how well we do. Based upon current squad I would say:
Shrewsbury – Away -Win
Bolton – Home - Lose
Reading – Away - Draw
Portsmouth – Away- Lose
Northampton – Home - win
Barnsley – home- Draw
Peterboro – Away - Lose
Exeter – away - Draw
Stevenage – home - Draw
Lincoln - Away- Lose
1985CTFC
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CS85 wrote: 24 Jul 2023, 21:40 Shrewsbury – Away -draw
Bolton – Home - draw
Reading – Away -lose
Portsmouth – Away-lose
Northampton – Home - win
Barnsley – home- win
Peterboro – Away - lose
Exeter – away - win
Stevenage – home -draw
Lincoln - Away- lose
That's 12 points
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Robin wrote: 25 Jul 2023, 07:29
1985CTFC wrote: 24 Jul 2023, 20:02
Robin wrote: 24 Jul 2023, 19:55 I will wait until we have a few more signings in the squad before making any predictions.
Go on do one now. We are not getting Harry Kane !
We have several more players to come in which will influence how well we do. Based upon current squad I would say:
Shrewsbury – Away -Win
Bolton – Home - Lose
Reading – Away - Draw
Portsmouth – Away- Lose
Northampton – Home - win
Barnsley – home- Draw
Peterboro – Away - Lose
Exeter – away - Draw
Stevenage – home - Draw
Lincoln - Away- Lose
That's 10 points
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Yes, perhaps a bit negative but I would be more confident if I knew the quality of the remaining signings to come in.
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Robin wrote: 25 Jul 2023, 09:02 Yes, perhaps a bit negative but I would be more confident if I knew the quality of the remaining signings to come in.
Fair assessment I reckon Robin.

We've lost three of our best players in Alfie, Caleb and Jacko plus Broom who was always one of the first names on the team sheet. That's four out of ten outfield players who have left.
Think they'll be four teams below us in April which is what matters I guess.
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Robin wrote: 25 Jul 2023, 09:02 Yes, perhaps a bit negative but I would be more confident if I knew the quality of the remaining signings to come in.
I'm going to monitor your eventual answers to see how close you get with your extra time monitoring our remaining signings.
I'm expecting you to be spot on!!
Am only joking. of course ...but pressure on ...we are all watching...he he
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Robin wrote: 25 Jul 2023, 09:02 Yes, perhaps a bit negative but I would be more confident if I knew the quality of the remaining signings to come in.
Realistic. Getting that first win early is key.
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3 of the first 6 games are against new managers who could still be going through transition so might not be a bad time to play them
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Broadway Brian wrote: 25 Jul 2023, 11:39
Robin wrote: 25 Jul 2023, 09:02 Yes, perhaps a bit negative but I would be more confident if I knew the quality of the remaining signings to come in.
Realistic. Getting that first win early is key.
Agree we need to get off to a good start. Both the 1st and 2nd games winnable. Get the feel good confidence factor going.
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bigdavejambo wrote: 25 Jul 2023, 12:57 3 of the first 6 games are against new managers who could still be going through transition so might not be a bad time to play them
A lot of the teams in this league have had a churn in players and managers which we really haven't. So hopefully we can hit the ground running picking up from late last season.

Another thing I noticed odds for top scorers in this coming season doesn't included Keena!!!!
Big Dan at Bolton is 66-1. Maybe bookies never heard of Keena. Not saying he should be favourite but Big Dan to get more than Keena.... I don't think so.
Alfie is 16-1. About 6th Favourite.
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1985CTFC wrote: 24 Jul 2023, 17:10 Our first 10 league fixtures covering August and September.

What would be an acceptable total points return from the 10 games? ( this number being the number you think we will get)

What number of total points would you be 'over the moon' with? ( be realistic)

What number of total points would you be disappointed with?

Will post my numbers in a while.

Shrewsbury – Away
Bolton – Home
Reading – Away
Portsmouth – Away
Northampton – Home
Barnsley – Home
Peterboro – Away
Exeter – Away
Stevenage – Home
Lincoln - Away

Don’t shoot me (points in brackets)….

Shrewsbury – Away - 1
Bolton – Home - 0
Reading – Away - 0 (we generally lose in big stadiums)
Portsmouth – Away - 0 (always lose there)
Northampton – Home - 3
Barnsley – Home - 0
Peterboro – Away - 0
Exeter – Away - 0 (always lose there)
Stevenage – Home - 3
Lincoln - Away - 0 (always lose there too)

So a total of 7 points…. but it’s a tough set of fixtures and I think over the season we’ll be alright
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robinsrule wrote: 25 Jul 2023, 16:19
1985CTFC wrote: 24 Jul 2023, 17:10 Our first 10 league fixtures covering August and September.

What would be an acceptable total points return from the 10 games? ( this number being the number you think we will get)

What number of total points would you be 'over the moon' with? ( be realistic)

What number of total points would you be disappointed with?

Will post my numbers in a while.

Shrewsbury – Away
Bolton – Home
Reading – Away
Portsmouth – Away
Northampton – Home
Barnsley – Home
Peterboro – Away
Exeter – Away
Stevenage – Home
Lincoln - Away

Don’t shoot me (points in brackets)….

Shrewsbury – Away - 1
Bolton – Home - 0
Reading – Away - 0 (we generally lose in big stadiums)
Portsmouth – Away - 0 (always lose there)
Northampton – Home - 3
Barnsley – Home - 0
Peterboro – Away - 0
Exeter – Away - 0 (always lose there)
Stevenage – Home - 3
Lincoln - Away - 0 (always lose there too)

So a total of 7 points…. but it’s a tough set of fixtures and I think over the season we’ll be alright
Exeter ...Just to point out we won there last season and season before!!
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Ha ha, must be my selective memory! But I’m sure we went on a long run of not winning against them. And I haven’t forgotten the 7-0 disaster last season….

Anyway, I’m hoping that my predictions are on the pessimistic side!
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Just noticed that our first Big Game Under The Lights At Whaddon Rd Guaranteed Three Points isn’t until 29 Dec.

The EFL definitely have it in for us.
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robinsrule wrote: 25 Jul 2023, 17:10 Ha ha, must be my selective memory! But I’m sure we went on a long run of not winning against them.
You're right. I can't remember the exact numbers but it's something like we won our first 11 League games versus Exeter, and then they won the next 7, but that run ended a few seasons ago.
Damnit, I'm going to have to look it up, now...

So, we won the first 9 games between the clubs in the EFL between 1999 and 2013. The run was ended with a draw in April 2014. Exeter then won the next 7 games, until 2018. Since 2018, there were two draws followed by 4 consecutive Cheltenham wins (L2 title winning season and last season). However, since 2018 there have been the first cup/trophy fixtures between the clubs, with Exeter winning a Trophy game, a League Cup game, and a draw in another Trophy game.

Overall, in the EFL, CTFC 13 wins, Exeter 7, and 3 draws.
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1985CTFC wrote: 25 Jul 2023, 15:09
bigdavejambo wrote: 25 Jul 2023, 12:57 3 of the first 6 games are against new managers who could still be going through transition so might not be a bad time to play them
A lot of the teams in this league have had a churn in players and managers which we really haven't. So hopefully we can hit the ground running picking up from late last season.

Another thing I noticed odds for top scorers in this coming season doesn't included Keena!!!!
Big Dan at Bolton is 66-1. Maybe bookies never heard of Keena. Not saying he should be favourite but Big Dan to get more than Keena.... I don't think so.
Alfie is 16-1. About 6th Favourite.
Bet365 Keena 100/1.
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Broadway Brian wrote: 25 Jul 2023, 17:38
1985CTFC wrote: 25 Jul 2023, 15:09
bigdavejambo wrote: 25 Jul 2023, 12:57 3 of the first 6 games are against new managers who could still be going through transition so might not be a bad time to play them
A lot of the teams in this league have had a churn in players and managers which we really haven't. So hopefully we can hit the ground running picking up from late last season.

Another thing I noticed odds for top scorers in this coming season doesn't included Keena!!!!
Big Dan at Bolton is 66-1. Maybe bookies never heard of Keena. Not saying he should be favourite but Big Dan to get more than Keena.... I don't think so.
Alfie is 16-1. About 6th Favourite.
Bet365 Keena 100/1.
That’s like printing money. Thanks for flagging.

Re Exeter and others. Not sure looking at past results is helpful. The players and teams are different so past results don’t mean much.
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RegencyCheltenhamSpa wrote: 25 Jul 2023, 17:52
Broadway Brian wrote: 25 Jul 2023, 17:38
1985CTFC wrote: 25 Jul 2023, 15:09

A lot of the teams in this league have had a churn in players and managers which we really haven't. So hopefully we can hit the ground running picking up from late last season.

Another thing I noticed odds for top scorers in this coming season doesn't included Keena!!!!
Big Dan at Bolton is 66-1. Maybe bookies never heard of Keena. Not saying he should be favourite but Big Dan to get more than Keena.... I don't think so.
Alfie is 16-1. About 6th Favourite.
Bet365 Keena 100/1.
That’s like printing money. Thanks for flagging.
I thought you’d like that.

I don’t quite share your full confidence, but I do think he’ll have a great season and that is too good a price to ignore.

Anyone else prepared to chip in to buy RCS a new house next May if Aiden doesn’t quite top the pile?
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Broadway Brian wrote: 25 Jul 2023, 17:38
1985CTFC wrote: 25 Jul 2023, 15:09
bigdavejambo wrote: 25 Jul 2023, 12:57 3 of the first 6 games are against new managers who could still be going through transition so might not be a bad time to play them
A lot of the teams in this league have had a churn in players and managers which we really haven't. So hopefully we can hit the ground running picking up from late last season.

Another thing I noticed odds for top scorers in this coming season doesn't included Keena!!!!
Big Dan at Bolton is 66-1. Maybe bookies never heard of Keena. Not saying he should be favourite but Big Dan to get more than Keena.... I don't think so.
Alfie is 16-1. About 6th Favourite.
Bet365 Keena 100/1.
Longer odds than big Dan ..unbelievable,,,.just goes to show nearly everyone still sees us as a insignificant little club. Just hope we prove them wrong and start to get a bit more respect. I know we have to earn it. But we have punched above our weight these last 2 seasons.
Would love it just love it if we smash this league this year. Hmmm where have I heard that before?
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