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Robin
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Unsure what was most worrying today but a few things:
1. Most of Gloucestershire seemed to forget there was a game on going by the sparse crowd.
2. How did George Miller somehow manage to miss from three years out unmarked.
3. The lack of proper chances created.
4. The absolute lack of coaching.
5. No clear style of play other that hit hard and hope it breaks to someone.

The new owner must be thinking he might need even more money than he first thought.
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Malabus
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We can’t even do the basics regarding set-pieces. Offensive set-pieces were incredibly bad. This was a problem last season and hasn’t been rectified.
Robin
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That's down to the standard of coaching.
Herbie53
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Robin wrote: 09 Aug 2025, 17:12 Unsure what was most worrying today but a few things:
1. Most of Gloucestershire seemed to forget there was a game on going by the sparse crowd.
2. How did George Miller somehow manage to miss from three years out unmarked.
3. The lack of proper chances created.
4. The absolute lack of coaching.
5. No clear style of play other that hit hard and hope it breaks to someone.

The new owner must be thinking he might need even more money than he first thought.
Re point 1, it is slap bang in the middle of school holidays at the moment which might explain the low attendance.
My son and I weren't able to attendas we're away, but it doesn't sound like we missed anything!
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Lord Elpuz
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I will offer a slightly different perspective.

I thought we competed well in the first half, but I feel sure everyone will agree we were playing against 12. Once the bookings started coming, we had too many players afraid to compete for fear of a red card. The second half gave us an opportunity to take off a couple of the ‘at risk’ yellow carded players, but the bookings continued. Even the crowd started on the Ref because of the one-sided decisions. It was demoralising to watch, and I’m sure the players felt it as well. That Ref completely stifled the game with his whistle constantly blowing, so the game couldn’t flow. That suited Chesterfield as it was the style of game they wanted, being the away side, but destroyed Cheltenham’s ability to produce any momentum.

Better times are coming. Mike Garlick’s takeover is imminent, and at this level, one or two quality signings will transform this group. It might even end the uncertainty over a couple of our players being on another club’s shopping list. That uncertainty affects players.
Robin
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Herbie53 wrote: 10 Aug 2025, 09:01
Robin wrote: 09 Aug 2025, 17:12 Unsure what was most worrying today but a few things:
1. Most of Gloucestershire seemed to forget there was a game on going by the sparse crowd.
2. How did George Miller somehow manage to miss from three years out unmarked.
3. The lack of proper chances created.
4. The absolute lack of coaching.
5. No clear style of play other that hit hard and hope it breaks to someone.

The new owner must be thinking he might need even more money than he first thought.
Re point 1, it is slap bang in the middle of school holidays at the moment which might explain the low attendance.
My son and I weren't able to attendas we're away, but it doesn't sound like we missed anything!
I agree with that but every other club gets a bumper attendance on the first home game, we seem to get lower than normal, or at least I hope so as our attendances will be awful. 3300 home fans is terrible even for league two.
Si Robin
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Lord Elpuz wrote: 10 Aug 2025, 09:08 I will offer a slightly different perspective.

I thought we competed well in the first half, but I feel sure everyone will agree we were playing against 12. Once the bookings started coming, we had too many players afraid to compete for fear of a red card. The second half gave us an opportunity to take off a couple of the ‘at risk’ yellow carded players, but the bookings continued. Even the crowd started on the Ref because of the one-sided decisions. It was demoralising to watch, and I’m sure the players felt it as well. That Ref completely stifled the game with his whistle constantly blowing, so the game couldn’t flow. That suited Chesterfield as it was the style of game they wanted, being the away side, but destroyed Cheltenham’s ability to produce any momentum.

Better times are coming. Mike Garlick’s takeover is imminent, and at this level, one or two quality signings will transform this group. It might even end the uncertainty over a couple of our players being on another club’s shopping list. That uncertainty affects players.
By halfway through the second half I'd pretty much felt my day had been ruined by the ref. I've said elsewhere, I don't think he was the reason we lost, but with him out there we were never going to be allowed to get back into it.
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Si Robin wrote: 10 Aug 2025, 11:21
Lord Elpuz wrote: 10 Aug 2025, 09:08 I will offer a slightly different perspective.

I thought we competed well in the first half, but I feel sure everyone will agree we were playing against 12. Once the bookings started coming, we had too many players afraid to compete for fear of a red card. The second half gave us an opportunity to take off a couple of the ‘at risk’ yellow carded players, but the bookings continued. Even the crowd started on the Ref because of the one-sided decisions. It was demoralising to watch, and I’m sure the players felt it as well. That Ref completely stifled the game with his whistle constantly blowing, so the game couldn’t flow. That suited Chesterfield as it was the style of game they wanted, being the away side, but destroyed Cheltenham’s ability to produce any momentum.

Better times are coming. Mike Garlick’s takeover is imminent, and at this level, one or two quality signings will transform this group. It might even end the uncertainty over a couple of our players being on another club’s shopping list. That uncertainty affects players.
By halfway through the second half I'd pretty much felt my day had been ruined by the ref. I've said elsewhere, I don't think he was the reason we lost, but with him out there we were never going to be allowed to get back into it.
Not quite true because if he'd been our centre forward he'd have scored Millers chance.
Garby74
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The ref week before wasn't much better.
But like other teams do we need to use that to motivate the players.

We never seem motivated....3 games a season...if that
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Robin wrote: 10 Aug 2025, 10:22
Herbie53 wrote: 10 Aug 2025, 09:01
Robin wrote: 09 Aug 2025, 17:12 Unsure what was most worrying today but a few things:
1. Most of Gloucestershire seemed to forget there was a game on going by the sparse crowd.
2. How did George Miller somehow manage to miss from three years out unmarked.
3. The lack of proper chances created.
4. The absolute lack of coaching.
5. No clear style of play other that hit hard and hope it breaks to someone.

The new owner must be thinking he might need even more money than he first thought.
Re point 1, it is slap bang in the middle of school holidays at the moment which might explain the low attendance.
My son and I weren't able to attendas we're away, but it doesn't sound like we missed anything!
I agree with that but every other club gets a bumper attendance on the first home game, we seem to get lower than normal, or at least I hope so as our attendances will be awful. 3300 home fans is terrible even for league two.
As someone said elsewhere, we're in a fairly affluent area of the country, more people can afford to take their kids away/go on holiday around here than other clubs in our division, than more working class areas. There were a good few ST holders around me who were away. I predict the bumper crowd to come after MG's takeover completes.
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Shade wrote: 11 Aug 2025, 11:43
Robin wrote: 10 Aug 2025, 10:22
Herbie53 wrote: 10 Aug 2025, 09:01

Re point 1, it is slap bang in the middle of school holidays at the moment which might explain the low attendance.
My son and I weren't able to attendas we're away, but it doesn't sound like we missed anything!
I agree with that but every other club gets a bumper attendance on the first home game, we seem to get lower than normal, or at least I hope so as our attendances will be awful. 3300 home fans is terrible even for league two.
As someone said elsewhere, we're in a fairly affluent area of the country, more people can afford to take their kids away/go on holiday around here than other clubs in our division, than more working class areas. There were a good few ST holders around me who were away. I predict the bumper crowd to come after MG's takeover completes.
If and when. And not if we’re bottom of the table……..
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Shade wrote: 11 Aug 2025, 11:43
Robin wrote: 10 Aug 2025, 10:22
Herbie53 wrote: 10 Aug 2025, 09:01

Re point 1, it is slap bang in the middle of school holidays at the moment which might explain the low attendance.
My son and I weren't able to attendas we're away, but it doesn't sound like we missed anything!
I agree with that but every other club gets a bumper attendance on the first home game, we seem to get lower than normal, or at least I hope so as our attendances will be awful. 3300 home fans is terrible even for league two.
As someone said elsewhere, we're in a fairly affluent area of the country, more people can afford to take their kids away/go on holiday around here than other clubs in our division, than more working class areas. There were a good few ST holders around me who were away. I predict the bumper crowd to come after MG's takeover completes.
With a marquee (relative for us) signing to herald in the new era.
Robin
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Shade wrote: 11 Aug 2025, 11:43
Robin wrote: 10 Aug 2025, 10:22
Herbie53 wrote: 10 Aug 2025, 09:01

Re point 1, it is slap bang in the middle of school holidays at the moment which might explain the low attendance.
My son and I weren't able to attendas we're away, but it doesn't sound like we missed anything!
I agree with that but every other club gets a bumper attendance on the first home game, we seem to get lower than normal, or at least I hope so as our attendances will be awful. 3300 home fans is terrible even for league two.
As someone said elsewhere, we're in a fairly affluent area of the country, more people can afford to take their kids away/go on holiday around here than other clubs in our division, than more working class areas. There were a good few ST holders around me who were away. I predict the bumper crowd to come after MG's takeover completes.
By the same logic would that not also apply to Cambridge, another affluent small city, yet they had a bumper crowd of over 6000 last week against us.
Robin
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Artemis wrote: 11 Aug 2025, 13:19
Shade wrote: 11 Aug 2025, 11:43
Robin wrote: 10 Aug 2025, 10:22

I agree with that but every other club gets a bumper attendance on the first home game, we seem to get lower than normal, or at least I hope so as our attendances will be awful. 3300 home fans is terrible even for league two.
As someone said elsewhere, we're in a fairly affluent area of the country, more people can afford to take their kids away/go on holiday around here than other clubs in our division, than more working class areas. There were a good few ST holders around me who were away. I predict the bumper crowd to come after MG's takeover completes.
With a marquee (relative for us) signing to herald in the new era.
I do wonder if we are holding back on a signing or two for this reason, I'm sure we will want a relative marquee signing in the door for the new era. I don't expect us to go silly but I could see us bringing someone in on higher end wages that would not have been attainable before.
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Robin wrote: 11 Aug 2025, 13:59
Shade wrote: 11 Aug 2025, 11:43
Robin wrote: 10 Aug 2025, 10:22

I agree with that but every other club gets a bumper attendance on the first home game, we seem to get lower than normal, or at least I hope so as our attendances will be awful. 3300 home fans is terrible even for league two.
As someone said elsewhere, we're in a fairly affluent area of the country, more people can afford to take their kids away/go on holiday around here than other clubs in our division, than more working class areas. There were a good few ST holders around me who were away. I predict the bumper crowd to come after MG's takeover completes.
By the same logic would that not also apply to Cambridge, another affluent small city, yet they had a bumper crowd of over 6000 last week against us.
Well, they didn't, because their average crowd last season was 6,640 and their attendance v us was 6,673, so no difference. Yes, they've dropped a division, but our attendance for our first game back in L2 after relegation was 4,613, compared to a previous season average of 4,608.

Our attendance on Saturday was officially 4,002, compared to a 4,198 average last season, which is only 196 difference.
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Robin wrote: 11 Aug 2025, 14:01 I do wonder if we are holding back on a signing or two for this reason, I'm sure we will want a relative marquee signing in the door for the new era.
Jamie Vardy is still without a club. Rebekah would like the Cotswolds.
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asl wrote: 11 Aug 2025, 15:38
Robin wrote: 11 Aug 2025, 14:01 I do wonder if we are holding back on a signing or two for this reason, I'm sure we will want a relative marquee signing in the door for the new era.
Jamie Vardy is still without a club. Rebekah would like the Cotswolds.
She could join my whatsapp group
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Shade wrote: 11 Aug 2025, 14:47
Robin wrote: 11 Aug 2025, 13:59
Shade wrote: 11 Aug 2025, 11:43

As someone said elsewhere, we're in a fairly affluent area of the country, more people can afford to take their kids away/go on holiday around here than other clubs in our division, than more working class areas. There were a good few ST holders around me who were away. I predict the bumper crowd to come after MG's takeover completes.
By the same logic would that not also apply to Cambridge, another affluent small city, yet they had a bumper crowd of over 6000 last week against us.
Well, they didn't, because their average crowd last season was 6,640 and their attendance v us was 6,673, so no difference. Yes, they've dropped a division, but our attendance for our first game back in L2 after relegation was 4,613, compared to a previous season average of 4,608.

Our attendance on Saturday was officially 4,002, compared to a 4,198 average last season, which is only 196 difference.
Now compare away support levels in those games. Cambridge was higher home turnout as we didn't bring many where as Chesterfield brought really good numbers. The home attendance on Saturday would have been one of our lowest weekend crowds last season I suspect,. That's even worse when you consider opening day like Boxing day is traditionally one of the best turnouts and usually above average.
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It's an average. I'm not going through all the data of Cambridge's away crowds last season because you don't like the factual figure I gave.
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