Well I just cant wait to tell the chairman that I will not be renewing a ST
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Is this engagement or panic
So if we are 400 down on last season thats about £140000 down ouch
Expect a phonecall soon ST - 600 sold
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A phone call will make a pleasant change from the e-mails I receive from them every day reminding me there are only 5/4/3 days to go until the early bird deadline.
I shall look forward to a phone call but I bet I do not get one as Mr Baker knows my feelings about the present state of affairs at Whaddon Road.
I shall look forward to a phone call but I bet I do not get one as Mr Baker knows my feelings about the present state of affairs at Whaddon Road.
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Think this clearly knocks Reliant Robin's and others idea that its only the odd one or two that have not bothered under the current circumstances at the club.Its clearly going to effect the budget but the board only have them selves to blame they knew as the dissatisfied customers what the problem was and they have done nothing about it.They are sticking with the manager so they have made there bed now they have to lie in it.
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Echo may want to edit this bit...
Many have taken advantage of the £25 discount for introducing a new season ticket holder, who also save £25 so that's a total saving of £5.
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It would be useful to know the like-for-like figure at this point last year. Perhaps one will be provided once the early bird deadline passes.
At face value though, it does strike me that they will struggle to sell on par with last season. I think they will come up about 150-200 short, personally.
At face value though, it does strike me that they will struggle to sell on par with last season. I think they will come up about 150-200 short, personally.
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So, you compare last year's final season ticket figures with this years at the end of May. And totally disregard the chairman's comments that he is pleased with the sales.51/84 wrote: So if we are 400 down on last season thats about £140000 down ouch
And I'm not really interested that you or the rest of the usual characters are not buying one. You really think if we sell the same number of season tickets as last year this must mean all those who had season tickets last year have bought one again? There will be new season ticket holders, while some won't renew. It's the way markets work.
Just a shame it doesn't suit your agenda.
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Perhaps someone can ask messrs Baker and Yates for the like-for-like sales figures if they receive a phonecall.
DAB just a couple of points
I understood that last season we had 1200 ST but I may be wrong
How many of the 600 sold so far are freebies ie juniors
I am sure that the chairman is going to say that he is disappointed that he has only sold half the number he did last year - not!
So that £140K is out of the playing budget is it.
Have you got yours yet then DAB
I understood that last season we had 1200 ST but I may be wrong
How many of the 600 sold so far are freebies ie juniors
I am sure that the chairman is going to say that he is disappointed that he has only sold half the number he did last year - not!
So that £140K is out of the playing budget is it.
Have you got yours yet then DAB
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I presume we are way down on previous seasons sales hence tonight's panic phone calls.Circa 1887 wrote:It would be useful to know the like-for-like figure at this point last year. Perhaps one will be provided once the early bird deadline passes.
At face value though, it does strike me that they will struggle to sell on par with last season. I think they will come up about 150-200 short, personally.
I am sure that if the chairman was pleased with the way sales have gone so far he would have found a more enjoyable way to spend a Thursday evening rather than making phone calls to former season ticket holders to plead with them to renew for next season.
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If no one buys one between now and the start of the season.Robin wrote:Are we not well down on last years sale i.e. by almost half DAB?
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You presume. On what basis? You always seem to presume the worst case scenario which makes your presumption rather bias.taxidave wrote:I presume we are way down on previous seasons sales hence tonight's panic phone calls.Circa 1887 wrote:It would be useful to know the like-for-like figure at this point last year. Perhaps one will be provided once the early bird deadline passes.
At face value though, it does strike me that they will struggle to sell on par with last season. I think they will come up about 150-200 short, personally.
I am sure that if the chairman was pleased with the way sales have gone so far he would have found a more enjoyable way to spend a Thursday evening rather than making phone calls to former season ticket holders to plead with them to renew for next season.
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I imagine you're right Dave - that was my gut reaction, as I don't recall this being publicly advertised in previous years. I've had the phonecall before....but from the back office staff, not Baker or Yates.
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My presumption is made on the basis that for the first time that I can remember the chairman and manager are going to be phoning former season ticket holders to plead with them to renew for next season.Darren Angels budgie wrote:
You presume. On what basis? You always seem to presume the worst case scenario which makes your presumption rather bias.
If you can recall this happening before then I will admit my presumption is ill founded.
there is no backroom staff other than Debs from the shop
I wonder if MY is on comission
It is nice to see the chairman and the chairman engaging with the supporters or should I say ex supporters
I wonder if they will give a bit of extra discount or extend the early bird date
Do report back if you get the call
I wonder if MY is on comission
It is nice to see the chairman and the chairman engaging with the supporters or should I say ex supporters
I wonder if they will give a bit of extra discount or extend the early bird date
Do report back if you get the call
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So every new concept is because the club is in struggling? Contacting former customers happens in most successful businesses. Not only does it encourage repeat trade but it also helps the business learn why they have lost customers. This is not a taxi business where you just sit by the side of the road and wait for customers to stagger down the street.taxidave wrote:My presumption is made on the basis that for the first time that I can remember the chairman and manager are going to be phoning former season ticket holders to plead with them to renew for next season.Darren Angels budgie wrote:
You presume. On what basis? You always seem to presume the worst case scenario which makes your presumption rather bias.
If you can recall this happening before then I will admit my presumption is ill founded.
Darren Angels budgie wrote:If no one buys one between now and the start of the season.Robin wrote:Are we not well down on last years sale i.e. by almost half DAB?
True but end of May last year we circa 1000 season tickets this year at a similar point only 600, it does not encourage positivity surely.
According to this: http://www.southwestbusiness.co.uk/news ... ket-sales/ we had sold 1200 by 24th July 2013.
This: http://www.ctfc.com/news/article/season ... 60283.aspx is from 11th June 2013
This: http://www.ctfc.com/news/article/season ... 60283.aspx is from 11th June 2013
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I get the impression that whatever I write you will contradict, I am sure that if I had posted saying how pleased I was to see the chairman and manager putting in the effort to encourage sales of season tickets you would have responded by saying a successful business should not need to do that because they don't lose customers.Darren Angels budgie wrote: So every new concept is because the club is in struggling? Contacting former customers happens in most successful businesses. Not only does it encourage repeat trade but it also helps the business learn why they have lost customers. This is not a taxi business where you just sit by the side of the road and wait for customers to stagger down the street.
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Thanks for that info, Si.
So, correct me if i'm wrong, we have two weeks to sell 500 tickets to be on par with last year's figure as at 11 June 2013.
If that is the case....then I think it's not going to happen and my prediction of 150-200 short will be likely - if not an underestimate of the deficit.
This, if it proves to be the case, is then more or less on message with the anecdotal evidence from some forum members, who are seeing regulars turning away from the club.
So, correct me if i'm wrong, we have two weeks to sell 500 tickets to be on par with last year's figure as at 11 June 2013.
If that is the case....then I think it's not going to happen and my prediction of 150-200 short will be likely - if not an underestimate of the deficit.
This, if it proves to be the case, is then more or less on message with the anecdotal evidence from some forum members, who are seeing regulars turning away from the club.
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got mine this morning
2 old boys getting theirs
someone else getting 5 or 6 but some of them were freebies
and at least 2 other people filling out forms and the phone ringing out so at least 9 and possibly more in 5 minutes
The lady said they were v busy so I think that the shortfall will be as you suggest circa
2 old boys getting theirs
someone else getting 5 or 6 but some of them were freebies
and at least 2 other people filling out forms and the phone ringing out so at least 9 and possibly more in 5 minutes
The lady said they were v busy so I think that the shortfall will be as you suggest circa
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But you wouldn't say it, would you? That would be something positive and you don't do that. I don't agree with much you say because you ALWAYS take the negative view. I don't know you - and don't really want to - so why would it be personal? A strange conclusion to draw.taxidave wrote:I get the impression that whatever I write you will contradict, I am sure that if I had posted saying how pleased I was to see the chairman and manager putting in the effort to encourage sales of season tickets you would have responded by saying a successful business should not need to do that because they don't lose customers.Darren Angels budgie wrote: So every new concept is because the club is in struggling? Contacting former customers happens in most successful businesses. Not only does it encourage repeat trade but it also helps the business learn why they have lost customers. This is not a taxi business where you just sit by the side of the road and wait for customers to stagger down the street.
I don't think there's any doubt it will be down on last year. I expect we have budgeted as such as well.
I am surprised it is as low as that at the moment, but then as others have said, payday is the back end of the month and some will have only just had their pay or will be getting paid tomorrow. 800 by close of business tomorrow will not be the end of the World.
I am surprised it is as low as that at the moment, but then as others have said, payday is the back end of the month and some will have only just had their pay or will be getting paid tomorrow. 800 by close of business tomorrow will not be the end of the World.
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To be fair, I think this drop has been inevitable. The key to it now is how the club reacts and what positive steps it takes to attract the drifting supporters back - rather than the usual guilt trip about a reduced playing budget.
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If the chairman is panicking then I guess one reaction might be, 'name your price'. Hardly fair on those who have already bought. If that is the ploy adopted then there could be some asking for a refund. As others on here have said, 'you reap what you sow, Mr Baker.' Interestingly Wycombe, Sido' s New club announced passing the 1200 s/t Mark at the beginning of this week.
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The board will need to look hard at making some positive gestures in the next few months because if there are a lot of disillusioned former season ticket holders there could also be a drop in the number of fans paying on the day.Robin wrote:Yes that's it the club needs to reinstall faith with the fans otherwise I can see average attendences dropping as low as 2500 next season.
I know some people on here consider speculation to be a dirty word but it might be necessary to spend some money to restore spectator confidence.
we have 2 chairmen? Amazing what you learn on this forum51/84 wrote:there is no backroom staff other than Debs from the shop
I wonder if MY is on comission
It is nice to see the chairman and the chairman engaging with the supporters or should I say ex supporters
I wonder if they will give a bit of extra discount or extend the early bird date
Do report back if you get the call