end of time on the horizon for Yates?

[Robin]

How much longer can this poor form continue before the board give him his marching orders?

[Nesty]

as I put on another thread :

After the York (H) game feelings ran high in the anti Yates camp. I viewed the Swindon result in the same way a man seeing his mother in law drive his brand new Aston Martin over a 1,000 foot cliff

unfortunately the FA Cup run will divert attention from him for the moment. I still dont see a long term future for him here nor can I see the board getting rid while we are in the Cup. but think of all the money I am saving !!

[Robin]

I'll tell you what this form continues and we will be in the relegation scrap before Christmas.

[robinsrule]

Our away form has returned to its normal poor self. Sounds like we are useless today.

[Robin]

Our home form has been the same, losing to York, drawing to Dagenham. I'm becoming quite worried about this season all told.

[Oldun]

Please! He has to go.2 in 12. Appalling!

[Alf]

There is a lot of discussion about ticket prices recently but the people I know who have stopped coming (for many, the York game was the final straw) have done so because of the standard of performances not the cost of admission. You could make the entry free and many people would not attend. They are, sadly, finding other things to do.
They are not 'boycotting' they have simply had enough.

[asl]

the people I know who have stopped coming (for many, the York game was the final straw) have done so because of the standard of performances

I'm picking and choosing for that reason exactly. Alas, it's clear that the Swindon result was a fluke - even the highlights suggest the 10-man opposition were *awful* and capable of making anyone look good.

[kags]

Interested to hear whether the performance was as bad as the result suggested. Not sure why Black didn't slot in at Lb and Deaman was left on the bench instead of Bowen, could have switched to a back 4 alternatively.

[Joey]

Interested to hear whether the performance was as bad as the result suggested. Not sure why Black didn't slot in at Lb and Deaman was left on the bench instead of Bowen, could have switched to a back 4 alternatively.

Radio said multiple times it had nothing to do with Bowen.

[Nesty]

There is a lot of discussion about ticket prices recently but the people I know who have stopped coming (for many, the York game was the final straw) have done so because of the standard of performances not the cost of admission. You could make the entry free and many people would not attend. They are, sadly, finding other things to do.
They are not 'boycotting' they have simply had enough.

In a nutshell - spot on...

[Robin]

I'm also starting to pick and choose games and I haven't done that since the dark days of the southern league. With the behaviour of some of our fans who simply continue to support this rubbish and a chairman who refuses to blame his lodger know matter how low things become there just isn't much to be positive about.

[taxidave]

I wonder how much today's defeat will affect the gate next week, despite the reduced entrance fee, I cannot see many undecided floaters rolling up at Whaddon Road.

[Ralph]

Time for Yatesy to go. Just got in and saw the score and let out a rather loud expletive. Thanks for the times MY but its time to go

[Nesty]

I wonder how much today's defeat will affect the gate next week, despite the reduced entrance fee, I cannot see many undecided floaters rolling up at Whaddon Road.

admission price is immaterial - I refuse to pay anything to watch that sh*te - I wouldnt go if it was free.

[Malabus]

There is a lot of discussion about ticket prices recently but the people I know who have stopped coming (for many, the York game was the final straw) have done so because of the standard of performances not the cost of admission. You could make the entry free and many people would not attend. They are, sadly, finding other things to do.
They are not 'boycotting' they have simply had enough.

Poor performances with high admission prices that the average fan cannot justify. That's the problem.

[art vandalay]

I certainly didn't expect us to keep up our early season form, but isn't that 9 points from the last 12 games? That's barely even good enough to be described as relegation form.

I suspect the cup win and the continued absence of Taylor and Hall will buy Yates more time. If a new man comes in we really need him in place for the January transfer window, so it could be that the Dover game proves crucial.

[Tom]

At the start of the season Yates had basically 5 or 6 games otherwise he was gone. Luckily we got off to a great start which potentially saved yates. However after them first few games we have gone downhill fast. So therefore Yates has to go there is a change needed and people have just the same thoughts as the end of last season again!

[Robin]

Yes, I'm starting to feel the remaining fans need to make their voices known otherwise this farce will drag on again while the ever decreasing band of Yates support scream give him until Xmas/end of the season/one more year/there is nobody better etc.

[Alf]

I think it is dangerous for the club to gamble with the Dover game. For the sake of finance and the fans it is a must win game with the hope of a jackpot draw for the next round.

[taxidave]

Yes, I'm starting to feel the remaining fans need to make their voices known otherwise this farce will drag on again while the ever decreasing band of Yates support scream give him until Xmas/end of the season/one more year/there is nobody better etc.

Where are Reliant Robin and confused.com when you need their voice of reason, even Cinderford has joined the Yates out campaign.

[Robin]

Reliant is probably camped outside Paul Bakers house showing his support for the manager right now.

[51/84]

So how many of you thought we would go to stevenage and win

[taxidave]

So how many of you thought we would go to stevenage and win

Probably not too many, I think most fans would have been happy with a draw, but I doubt if anyone expected us to get hammered.

[Malabus]

So how many of you thought we would go to stevenage and win

Well...even Maidstone United gave them a competitive game last week.

[C.V]

Or how many of you after last weeks 5 nil win thought we would get trounced today not many.Perhaps Swindon wanted out last week to concentrate on there promotion campaign

[Alf]

The question should be 'how many fans thought we would hammer Swindon?' Answer: not many. That was a totally unexpected result. Losing today, looking at our normal league form, wasn't. (Although many wouldn't have predicted 5-1). You can wrap things up as you wish but the fact is that people are not turning up to watch games and we need to get their interest back asap or they will be gone forever.

[Oldun]

Interesting comment from Tom above 're MY and start of season. There was a good start with good away wins; apart from that it's been unacceptable. Even the home wins were unconvincing, ( E g fortunate to get all 3 points v Stanley and a couple of 1-0s. There were dismal performances v York and Southend and some poor draws. We are relegation material in terms of results and performance since end of August. Mr Baker must be able to see this and has to act. The Swindon result cannot mask the reality of our league form and position. Last season was equally grim in the league and anyone, anyone would be an improvement on what's going on now. Try Elliott and Milton; get Worthington. As I have said elsewhere, if MY has not got what it takes to walk, then PB has to act. Dover is an irrelevant diversion from the real disaster that is our league position and performance.

[solihullkev]

Dover is highly relevant to the financial outcome of the season. To suggest it is irrelevant is frankly naive. No bigger game this season.

Stick with MY until then at least.

[Reliant Robin]

Yes, I'm starting to feel the remaining fans need to make their voices known otherwise this farce will drag on again while the ever decreasing band of Yates support scream give him until Xmas/end of the season/one more year/there is nobody better etc.

Where are Reliant Robin and confused.com when you need their voice of reason, even Cinderford has joined the Yates out campaign.

The day I turn my back on the Club will be the day we no longer have a Club. Judging by the same predictable set of people on this Forum who go into meltdown whenever we lose and who kick out against everything that disturbs their shallow egos & fails to keep them happy 24/7, and who then do everything they can to stir up anti manager/ anti Board sentiment - it may not be that much longer.

I still put money into the Club unlike some of the main antagonists on this Forum. It is those who turn their back on the Club that are harming our existence. Call yourself Cheltenham Town fans? Don't kid yourselves.

[Oldun]

Of course Kev it's vital financially. I am suggesting that it's irrelevant as far as the league is concerned, and more crucially a diversion from the awful problems we have at manager level. If we wait till after Dec 7 that's a mistake and a waste of 3 weeks that could be given to reviving things.
Regarding RR' s comments please can we keep to discussion on the subject and not resort to personal criticism of those who hold a different view to your own

[taxidave]

I still put money into the Club unlike some of the main antagonists on this Forum. It is those who turn their back on the Club that are harming our existence. Call yourself Cheltenham Town fans? Don't kid yourselves.

I sincerely hope I am not included in that statement because if I am then I feel you will be somewhat embarrassed when you eventually learn about my circumstances.

[Alf]

Blind acceptance of the current situation does not make you a better supporter than the rest of us Reliant. It is because many of us have been supporting the Robins through thick and thin over decades that we find it difficult to accept the lack of consistency in results and watch the attendances dwindling every other week. We do actually care what happens to our club and don't feel that the way to deal with it is to stick our fingers in our ears and go 'la la la la' and everything will be alright.

[solihullkev]

People should clearly be able to voice their opinion on this forum and if that is anti MY and PB so be it. I have the benefit of having attended today and frankly it was embarrassing. Shockingly bad. Far worse than Tamworth ( where we at least created chances ). Personally though I don't consider MY should go now given Dover game - had we been knocked out last week I would almost certainly be of the view it is time for a change, but bigger picture for club is getting in to round 3 and stability is better than change in my view to achieve this. That being said, Yates must take responsibility for some baffling choices today and a line up that looked to have no idea how to deal with Stevenage - we made their 34 look world class until he was injured. This is far from the first time we have seriously under performed in last 18 months.

You can be a loyal fan and be critical and call for change. There is no incompatibility about that.

[Oldun]

Just can't see what delaying the inevitable Will achieve. We've been doing that too long already.