Mark Yates after the 5-1 defeat at Stevenage

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Jon Palmer
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Video interview here: http://youtu.be/geySyIWNrTg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Nesty
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what was that annoying whining noise right through that clip?
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Ralph
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its interesting to see Yatesey in that interview. He sounds depressed, he keeps looking down and away from the interviewer way more than usual.. makes me think thats he knows the times up. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he's gone over the next 48hrs. The board need that Terrace for a tenner to work. It won't with him still there
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Malabus
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I like Mark Yates. But I do feel the club is crying out for a change.
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agree...
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Robin
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I'm indifferent for him going right now, if we lose against Dover there is surely no way he will survive but today is a real low point and under any other chairman I do think he would be sacked.
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I-Love-CTFC
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Yates out! That was the last straw for me today.
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Robin wrote:I'm indifferent for him going right now, if we lose against Dover there is surely no way he will survive but today is a real low point and under any other chairman I do think he would be sacked.
Indifferent! LOL!!!! If this thread; http://www.robinsnestforum.co.uk/viewto ... =2&t=17701" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;, is you being indifferent, I would dread to think what it is like when you have made up your mind!

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little mo
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RegencyCheltenhamSpa wrote:
Robin wrote:I'm indifferent for him going right now, if we lose against Dover there is surely no way he will survive but today is a real low point and under any other chairman I do think he would be sacked.
Indifferent! LOL!!!! If this thread; http://www.robinsnestforum.co.uk/viewto ... =2&t=17701" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;, is you being indifferent, I would dread to think what it is like when you have made up your mind!

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Have to say that I do agree with you there RCS. Robin you give the impression of someone who is loading the gun then stepping back so someone else can pull the trigger.
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Jerry St Clair
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Well, that's 6 mins of the bleedin' obvious. All I heard there was a long list of problems - and a man who has no clue how to fix them.
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I-Love-CTFC
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Has a CTFC manager apologised as much as Yates during their tenure? It's like a broken record.
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Robin
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Not sure if RCS is just trying to wind up like he usually does but I feel my position is quite clear. That is, Yates is on the brink, but I would not fire him now, I would give him three games (hence my comments his time could soon end).

There are clearly some who think he should go right now, I think that's unlikely but only because of the win last week.
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Not winding up Robin, I am just trying to understand.

If you are indifferent and don't think he should be sacked yet, why are you a) calling for "the remaining fans to make their voices clear" and b) why are you abusive to "Yates backers", especially your comments towards Reliant Robin.

You just stated Yates should not be sacked yet. Then why on earth do you abuse and argue with people who say the same thing. Why even start threads encouraging people to say they want him gone when such threads always result in slanging matches. For someone so indifferent almost everything you write oozes anti Yates backers. I too am indifferent yet you and others label me a rose tinter and Yates backet etc.

Plus once again we have a moderator arguing with posters and stirring it up which should not be happening. We moan if we get a bad referee at Whaddon Road yet we allow the referees on here much more leniency.

I tell you now - make me a moderator in place of either Ralph or Robin and you will barely see me post at all. I would only post publicly to warn if things were getting out of hand or to remove inappropriate content. That is the role of a moderator. Stirring up arguments and mocking and insulting posters such as Reliant Robin is not.
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Jon Palmer wrote:Video interview here: http://youtu.be/geySyIWNrTg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Yates says "space doesn`t score goals men do" surely one of the signs of a quality player is the ability to find and then exploit space ?Our forwards seem to find it very hard to find space,while our midfield often mark space when we lose possession.
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Oldun
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Can someone explain how Mr Yates is going to become a good manager between now and Dec 7?
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Although nobody seems to be blaming Bowen, I have to admit to voicing surprise when the line-up was announced. Black was signed as a full back and we had Deaman on the bench.
It's another square pegs round holes situation. Yates jams the squad with wide players yet sticks with a formation that fails to utilise them. Then we have the midfield where, over the season we have had Omari, De Vita, Gornell etc "in the hole" leaving just Taylor and Richards to try to stem the opposition attacking midfielders.
We saw all this last season, trying to find a system and/or formation to suit the players. If he was going to play without wingers why did we sign so many? Even Arthur and Eusebio were wide players, it is painfully obvious he is now floundering, lacks confidence and is still devoid of a plan "B", that's assuming anyone thinks he even has a plan "A"
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Nesty wrote:Although nobody seems to be blaming Bowen, I have to admit to voicing surprise when the line-up was announced. Black was signed as a full back and we had Deaman on the bench.
It's another square pegs round holes situation. Yates jams the squad with wide players yet sticks with a formation that fails to utilise them. Then we have the midfield where, over the season we have had Omari, De Vita, Gornell etc "in the hole" leaving just Taylor and Richards to try to stem the opposition attacking midfielders.
We saw all this last season, trying to find a system and/or formation to suit the players. If he was going to play without wingers why did we sign so many? Even Arthur and Eusebio were wide players, it is painfully obvious he is now floundering, lacks confidence and is still devoid of a plan "B", that's assuming anyone thinks he even has a plan "A"
Playing Taylor and Richards together is like driving a car with two flat tyres ?
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everyman wrote:Yates says "space doesn`t score goals men do"
Isn't that paraphrasing one of Brian Clough's quotes? When asked about zonal marking said "Zones don't score goals - men do."

Was that Brian?
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everyman
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asl wrote:
everyman wrote:Yates says "space doesn`t score goals men do"
Isn't that paraphrasing one of Brian Clough's quotes? When asked about zonal marking said "Zones don't score goals - men do."

Was that Brian?
It`s an often used adage of non-league and amateur coaches !
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Robin wrote:Not sure if RCS is just trying to wind up like he usually does but I feel my position is quite clear. That is, Yates is on the brink, but I would not fire him now, I would give him three games (hence my comments his time could soon end).

There are clearly some who think he should go right now, I think that's unlikely but only because of the win last week.
Really Robin you do take the prize for the most deluded person on this forum. I just logged on her to get some feedback on the match and note you have yourself, started 3 threads purely aimed at giving space for your anti everything campaign. Yep, totally indifferent
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Point me to one thread where I have said sack him now please Confused, I am indifferent to sacking him now, I would give him until Dover unless we can get a new man in beforehand.
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ghandi
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Well put nesty,black had a steady game againist swindon,but it sounded like he was struggling to contain the stevenage strikers.I know people have been saying that the youngsters should be given a chance,but to throw bowen into the lions den of stevenage away can't be a sensible decision.Succesful football management is all about making more right decisions than wrong ones.Yatesy percentage of right decisions is dropping dramatically,put the chap out of his misery now!
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Just going back to an earlier post, moderators are fans too I see no reason why Ralph or I (the two mentioned) cannot post our opinions, we are both long term fans of the club.
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As fans anyone should be able to post their views
As moderators there should be no views posted, hence 2 logins
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Robin
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I'm not deliberately being argumentative but I genuinely don't see the issue here.
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Robin wrote:Point me to one thread where I have said sack him now please Confused, I am indifferent to sacking him now, I would give him until Dover unless we can get a new man in beforehand.
I would look, if I had made any mention of it
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Robin wrote:I'm not deliberately being argumentative but I genuinely don't see the issue here.
I think the issue is, as usual, RCS. :lol:
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Moderators are exactly that. They moderate and enforce rules. Same how a policeman has to behave a certain way when on duty but can have a personal life off duty, moderators should not engage in arguments, especially if they personally criticise other posters. If a moderator can attack posters and swear then the rules of the forum are undermined. As 51/84 says, two logins is a way round it.

Imagine if a footballer referee got stuck in and started joining in the pushing and shoving at corners. There would be uproar. Because the referee doesn't play, they observe and officiate. That is the same role a moderator should play. If you cannot disassociate being a moderator from being an opinionated fan, then resign the former position and let someone willing and able to do it properly take over.
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RegencyCheltenhamSpa wrote:Moderators are exactly that. They moderate and enforce rules. Same how a policeman has to behave a certain way when on duty but can have a personal life off duty, moderators should not engage in arguments, especially if they personally criticise other posters. If a moderator can attack posters and swear then the rules of the forum are undermined. As 51/84 says, two logins is a way round it.

Imagine if a footballer referee got stuck in and started joining in the pushing and shoving at corners. There would be uproar. Because the referee doesn't play, they observe and officiate. That is the same role a moderator should play. If you cannot disassociate being a moderator from being an opinionated fan, then resign the former position and let someone willing and able to do it properly take over.
This is absolutely correct. Anyone who can't see that is either deluded or is deliberately being obtuse.
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go on any football forum of clubs like Leeds, Bristol's, Swindon MUFC, Liverpool etc and the mods are all up there giving as good as the next person. Would you like us to say "please" and "thank you" on the odd occasion you deem it suitable for us to post :D
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taxidave wrote:
Robin wrote:I'm not deliberately being argumentative but I genuinely don't see the issue here.
I think the issue is, as usual, RCS. :lol:
RCS is homing in on being the top posting poster like an exocet missile. :lol:
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Ralph wrote:go on any football forum of clubs like Leeds, Bristol's, Swindon MUFC, Liverpool etc and the mods are all up there giving as good as the next person. Would you like us to say "please" and "thank you" on the odd occasion you deem it suitable for us to post :D
In your moderator role, yes.
As others have pointed out, if you want to express strident views or use inappropriate language for a moderator, do so under a separate login. What's so difficult about that? ;)
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nothing wrong with having a view on things and (please get your facts right) i have not used inappropriate language (although theres a few times of inappropriate language aimed at me in PM's.)
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Ralph wrote:go on any football forum of clubs like Leeds, Bristol's, Swindon MUFC, Liverpool etc and the mods are all up there giving as good as the next person. Would you like us to say "please" and "thank you" on the odd occasion you deem it suitable for us to post :D
Only when giving warnings or informing of inappropriate content which is all moderators should be posting. If you want to post like a normal fan then do not be a moderator. It is quite simple.
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Ralph wrote:
taxidave wrote:
Robin wrote:I'm not deliberately being argumentative but I genuinely don't see the issue here.
I think the issue is, as usual, RCS. :lol:
RCS is homing in on being the top posting poster like an exocet missile. :lol:
You will see on another thread I have offered to replace you as a moderator which would mean I hardly post at all, so post count is hardly my concern. The fact it is something which comes readily to your mind when its something I would never consider shows the difference in intellectual planes we operate on.

I am serious. If I am a moderator I imagine I will post once or twice a week maximum, and then only on matters of moderating and not opinion.

No one is saying that you as a CTFC fan cannot post your opinions on the forum. Only that no moderator should. If you cannot deal with the responsibility of moderating then do not do the job.
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